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if the beeb at correct, it's very odd how they have 'several bids on the table' when the asking price is £800m (I know they won't even get half that) and we couldn't get one person (who actually had/could raise the dough) when Ashley was seemingly willing to accept £80m. makes you wonder whether he actually wanted to sell at all.

 

I guess we don't know how much those bids are. Potential buyers may be reckoning that the owners and the banks are sitting on an asset of declining value and they may have to bail out for an amount that is far less than they were hoping for.

 

The Chinese businessman has been very crafty in going public. He's putting a lot of pressure on the owners, by giving the fans the impression that he's just waiting to pump a lot of money in, if only those nasty Americans would get out of the way. We've seen the same trick going on with our club.

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oh I totally accept that. they are a more saleable assett. but with their debt etc, are they ten times more attractive (based on rumored asking prices)? I think not.

 

This debt everyone keeps talking about isn't Liverpool's debt. It is the loans taken out by the Yanks to buy the club. Any asking price covers first and foremost repaying those loans to the bank (which is effectively the club's owner now).

 

The £800m price is horseshit, being bandied around by the Yanks, who are worried they might not make any profit out of the deal. Bigging up the price and trying to instigate a bidding war is their attempt to line their pockets.

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if the beeb at correct, it's very odd how they have 'several bids on the table' when the asking price is £800m (I know they won't even get half that) and we couldn't get one person (who actually had/could raise the dough) when Ashley was seemingly willing to accept £80m. makes you wonder whether he actually wanted to sell at all.

 

I am certain there will be no bids at £800m, that kind of venture captital just isn't out there. Even the super rich are feeling the pinch.

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Good news for them that Torres is staying. Can see them having a decent season now.

In wonder why it took Torres so long to tell everyone that he really, really still loves the club.

 

When he realised his knee was fucked.

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Anyone see what Al Fayed was saying about Hodgson in the press conference with Mark Hughes? Ungrateful fuck, Fulham would still be thinking about staving off relegation if Hodgson hadn't have come along. He says Hodgson took advantage, I don't recall there being any kind of fight at all to keep him when Liverpool came in for him?

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Anyone see what Al Fayed was saying about Hodgson in the press conference with Mark Hughes? Ungrateful fuck, Fulham would still be thinking about staving off relegation if Hodgson hadn't have come along. He says Hodgson took advantage, I don't recall there being any kind of fight at all to keep him when Liverpool came in for him?

on the other hand he took a punt on hodgson when it seemed no one else in england would

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Anyone see what Al Fayed was saying about Hodgson in the press conference with Mark Hughes? Ungrateful fuck, Fulham would still be thinking about staving off relegation if Hodgson hadn't have come along. He says Hodgson took advantage, I don't recall there being any kind of fight at all to keep him when Liverpool came in for him?

on the other hand he took a punt on hodgson when it seemed no one else in england would

Fair point, but I still don't get how he can hold a grudge. Did I miss when he told Liverpool to back off from Hodgson? I just fail to see where this bitterness is coming from for a manager who got them the closest they've been to success, when he didn't appear to put up a fight to keep him at Fulham when Liverpool came in.

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Hodgson paid them back in months. That was a miracle keeping them up with the mob he had. That's what he was appointed to do, The rest was a huge bonus.

 

 

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Anyone see what Al Fayed was saying about Hodgson in the press conference with Mark Hughes? Ungrateful f***, Fulham would still be thinking about staving off relegation if Hodgson hadn't have come along. He says Hodgson took advantage, I don't recall there being any kind of fight at all to keep him when Liverpool came in for him?

on the other hand he took a punt on hodgson when it seemed no one else in england would

Fair point, but I still don't get how he can hold a grudge. Did I miss when he told Liverpool to back off from Hodgson? I just fail to see where this bitterness is coming from for a manager who got them the closest they've been to success, when he didn't appear to put up a fight to keep him at Fulham when Liverpool came in.

 

Al Fayed has a track record of reinventing history in non football matters, so this shouldn't come as any surprise.....

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Anyone see what Al Fayed was saying about Hodgson in the press conference with Mark Hughes? Ungrateful f***, Fulham would still be thinking about staving off relegation if Hodgson hadn't have come along. He says Hodgson took advantage, I don't recall there being any kind of fight at all to keep him when Liverpool came in for him?

on the other hand he took a punt on hodgson when it seemed no one else in england would

Fair point, but I still don't get how he can hold a grudge. Did I miss when he told Liverpool to back off from Hodgson? I just fail to see where this bitterness is coming from for a manager who got them the closest they've been to success, when he didn't appear to put up a fight to keep him at Fulham when Liverpool came in.

 

Al Fayed has a track record of reinventing history in non football matters, so this shouldn't come as any surprise.....

It's amazing how Fulham have gone from a team I'd love to see do well to a team I'd love to see crash and burn out of this league in such an amazingly short space of time.

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Now that Hodgson has managed to hang on to both Torres and Gerrard, and acquired Joe Cole for nowt, while the club looks like it may soon be wrested from the grasp of Hicks and Gillett, I think Parky's already a goal down here.

 

If the club actually gets sold then we'll see.

 

Losing Mascherano is a biggie. Leaves a lot eggs in 2 baskets. 

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Now that Hodgson has managed to hang on to both Torres and Gerrard, and acquired Joe Cole for nowt, while the club looks like it may soon be wrested from the grasp of Hicks and Gillett, I think Parky's already a goal down here.

nah all part of the liverpool cycle, its on the "this is our year" part of the cycle atm

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The Chinese government fund represented by Kenny Huang has spent the past fortnight raising precisely the amount of cash required to finance a bid for Liverpool. Sources have confirmed to Digger that the China Investment Corporation, the sovereign wealth fund to the world's most populous nation, is the organisation being fronted by Huang, who yesterday admitted interest in bidding for Liverpool.

 

In a series of trades since 19 July, CIC has sold $558m of shares in Morgan Stanley, equating to £351.4m. That sum is equivalent to Liverpool's debt to the nearest decimal place, and is exactly the number insiders say has been quoted to interested parties as the sale price.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/aug/05/china-liverpool-ownership-fund

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if the beeb at correct, it's very odd how they have 'several bids on the table' when the asking price is £800m (I know they won't even get half that) and we couldn't get one person (who actually had/could raise the dough) when Ashley was seemingly willing to accept £80m. makes you wonder whether he actually wanted to sell at all.

 

I am certain there will be no bids at £800m, that kind of venture captital just isn't out there. Even the super rich are feeling the pinch.

 

That's not the point. It's up to the bank--not the Yanks--who gets the club, and the bank will only get to keep the first £350m of the offer, which covers the loans. Any surplus goes to the Yanks. The bank won't mess around holding out for a better offer. The only chance of the club going for much over that is if the Yanks can find a serious bidder willing to pay more. The bank will go for the first cash offer it gets that covers the loans, and the Yanks will have a very short time to demonstrate they have a serious bidder willing to pay cash straight away.

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... and reports today that the Chinese aren't that interested and haven't launched a bid. Takeovers.  :doh:

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