The Liverpool Thread

[Mr Logic]

[Guest Howaythetoon]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-can-qualify-for-champions-league-says-kevin-keegan-8053459.html

 

Former Liverpool striker Kevin Keegan believes a top-four finish in the

Barclays Premier League is an achievable target for new boss Brendan

Rodgers this season.

 

The ex-Swansea manager took over at Anfield following the sacking of Kenny Dalglish during the summer and faces his first league match at the helm away to West Brom on Saturday.

 

Liverpool's American owners have charged the 39-year-old with revitalising the club's fortunes and Keegan reckons Rodgers is the right man for the job, with a return to the Champions League being attainable.

 

"I think it is a big ask but it is probably the right time for him to go there," he told Press Association Sport.

 

"He comes with a lot of knowledge - he has got good experience, but Liverpool is different for him, the expectation at Liverpool, regardless of what anyone said is to win the league.

 

"Even top four for Liverpool fans, because of what they have been brought up on is not enough, but if things go well it is achievable.

 

"Last year if they had won half of the home games they had drawn they would have been in the top four. There are lots of things if you're a Liverpool fan to give you hope and inspiration."

 

Keegan, who was talking at the launch of ESPN's new football brand ESPNFC, has also been impressed with the attractive philosophy favoured by the Northern Irishman and thinks it will please the Liverpool support.

 

"What I think Liverpool fans will like about Brendan is the football that he plays," he said.

 

"It is attractive and whereas at Swansea he didn't have a Suarez or a Gerrard he has them now and he can play that kind of football with better players."

 

Wales midfielder Joe Allen has followed Rodgers from Swansea to Anfield and Keegan feels he could prove to be an influential player from the outset.

 

"He may give them something else," he said of the 22-year-old midfielder.

 

"It is always a great sign when a manager goes back to his former club and brings a player with him and I think Allen could be the key.

 

"He has paid a lot of money for him and surprised a lot of people but look out for him being a big hit with the Liverpool fans."

 

Despite finishing eighth last season after heavy investment in new players Keegan maintains Rodgers has inherited some top-class players at Liverpool and must do his utmost to hang on to them, with the likes of Daniel Agger being linked with champions Manchester City.

 

He said: "They have got three world-class players for me at the moment, (Steven) Gerrard obviously, (Luis) Suarez and Agger at the back.

 

"They have still got (Stewart) Downing there, they have still got (Andy) Carroll there and they still have (Charlie) Adam there.

 

"These are players they brought last year and you think to yourself, what if they start to find their feet this year and the new kids come in and do well, they could challenge. It is a big ask but if all of these things come off they could be good enough.

 

"It is no good getting a good few players in and then let one go.

 

"He (Agger) has been very consistent so the minute you get that kind of player going out it weakens you.

 

"You have to find someone out there who is better than him and there are only one or two I think are better than him but I don't think they would want to come."

 

Another Liverpool player attracting the attention of other clubs in £35million England striker Carroll.

 

Former side Newcastle, as well as recently-promoted West Ham, have made their admiration of the forward well-known but Keegan thinks staying put would be the right decision for the 23-year-old.

 

"Rodgers played with a big lad up front at Swansea with Danny Graham, obviously there was a lot of talk about him going out on loan and I see him as a tremendous asset to have on the bench," he said.

 

"Him and Suarez should be an amazing combination, if that ball is going up in the air he will beat anyone - I wouldn't close the door on Carroll yet even though some people have.

 

"It was not that long ago he was scoring the winning goal in an FA Cup semi-final and then came on and scored in the final, he won a League Cup and he might think he has something to prove and will want to prove it.

 

"I think he was starting to find his feet towards the end of the season and he is following in the footsteps of players like Dalglish, Rush and Fowler."

 

 

Shocked he didn't quit halfway through that interview.

 

How can you be so disrespectful....

 

Honestly, it fucking pisses me off the attitude of some fans towards KK.

 

Just remember what kind of rabble we would be if it were  not for him.

[Dokko]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-can-qualify-for-champions-league-says-kevin-keegan-8053459.html

 

Former Liverpool striker Kevin Keegan believes a top-four finish in the

Barclays Premier League is an achievable target for new boss Brendan

Rodgers this season.

 

The ex-Swansea manager took over at Anfield following the sacking of Kenny Dalglish during the summer and faces his first league match at the helm away to West Brom on Saturday.

 

Liverpool's American owners have charged the 39-year-old with revitalising the club's fortunes and Keegan reckons Rodgers is the right man for the job, with a return to the Champions League being attainable.

 

"I think it is a big ask but it is probably the right time for him to go there," he told Press Association Sport.

 

"He comes with a lot of knowledge - he has got good experience, but Liverpool is different for him, the expectation at Liverpool, regardless of what anyone said is to win the league.

 

"Even top four for Liverpool fans, because of what they have been brought up on is not enough, but if things go well it is achievable.

 

"Last year if they had won half of the home games they had drawn they would have been in the top four. There are lots of things if you're a Liverpool fan to give you hope and inspiration."

 

Keegan, who was talking at the launch of ESPN's new football brand ESPNFC, has also been impressed with the attractive philosophy favoured by the Northern Irishman and thinks it will please the Liverpool support.

 

"What I think Liverpool fans will like about Brendan is the football that he plays," he said.

 

"It is attractive and whereas at Swansea he didn't have a Suarez or a Gerrard he has them now and he can play that kind of football with better players."

 

Wales midfielder Joe Allen has followed Rodgers from Swansea to Anfield and Keegan feels he could prove to be an influential player from the outset.

 

"He may give them something else," he said of the 22-year-old midfielder.

 

"It is always a great sign when a manager goes back to his former club and brings a player with him and I think Allen could be the key.

 

"He has paid a lot of money for him and surprised a lot of people but look out for him being a big hit with the Liverpool fans."

 

Despite finishing eighth last season after heavy investment in new players Keegan maintains Rodgers has inherited some top-class players at Liverpool and must do his utmost to hang on to them, with the likes of Daniel Agger being linked with champions Manchester City.

 

He said: "They have got three world-class players for me at the moment, (Steven) Gerrard obviously, (Luis) Suarez and Agger at the back.

 

"They have still got (Stewart) Downing there, they have still got (Andy) Carroll there and they still have (Charlie) Adam there.

 

"These are players they brought last year and you think to yourself, what if they start to find their feet this year and the new kids come in and do well, they could challenge. It is a big ask but if all of these things come off they could be good enough.

 

"It is no good getting a good few players in and then let one go.

 

"He (Agger) has been very consistent so the minute you get that kind of player going out it weakens you.

 

"You have to find someone out there who is better than him and there are only one or two I think are better than him but I don't think they would want to come."

 

Another Liverpool player attracting the attention of other clubs in £35million England striker Carroll.

 

Former side Newcastle, as well as recently-promoted West Ham, have made their admiration of the forward well-known but Keegan thinks staying put would be the right decision for the 23-year-old.

 

"Rodgers played with a big lad up front at Swansea with Danny Graham, obviously there was a lot of talk about him going out on loan and I see him as a tremendous asset to have on the bench," he said.

 

"Him and Suarez should be an amazing combination, if that ball is going up in the air he will beat anyone - I wouldn't close the door on Carroll yet even though some people have.

 

"It was not that long ago he was scoring the winning goal in an FA Cup semi-final and then came on and scored in the final, he won a League Cup and he might think he has something to prove and will want to prove it.

 

"I think he was starting to find his feet towards the end of the season and he is following in the footsteps of players like Dalglish, Rush and Fowler."

 

 

Shocked he didn't quit halfway through that interview.

 

How can you be so disrespectful....

 

Honestly, it fucking pisses me off the attitude of some fans towards KK.

 

Just remember what kind of rabble we would be if it were  not for him.

 

Apparently he fuking hates sharks mate.

[Guest BooBoo]

Keegan talking out of his ringpiece as usual.

[Ameritoon]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-can-qualify-for-champions-league-says-kevin-keegan-8053459.html

 

"Last year if they had won half of the home games they had drawn they would have been in the top four. There are lots of things if you're a Liverpool fan to give you hope and inspiration."

 

Jesus Christ

[Mole_Toonfan]

Yeah and if Derby didn't lose all those games when they went down they would have won the league.....

[Guest BooBoo]

Can I just say before the knicker wetting that KK was a fabulous servant to NUFC and his time as manager between 92-97 was an absolute joy, but by God the man doth talk some crap.

[LesPaul]

Can I just say before the knicker wetting that KK was a fabulous servant to NUFC and his time as manager between 92-97 was an absolute joy, but by God the man doth talk some crap.

[themanupstairs]

Can I just say before the knicker wetting that KK was a fabulous servant to NUFC and his time as manager between 92-97 was an absolute joy, but by God the man doth talk some crap.

 

[wormy]

Can I just say before the knicker wetting that KK was a fabulous servant to NUFC and his time as manager between 92-97 was an absolute joy, but by God the man doth talk some crap.

 

You ungrateful fucking scumbag.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

We have a word for you lot, cunts!

[themanupstairs]

HTT reminds me of KK tbh.

 

Brilliant servant to NO in its early days, but has gone senile and talks tripe of late 

 

 

 

[johnnypd]

Not sure Keegan says a lot wrong there tbh, he's a liverpool legend so is naturally going to be a tad charitable towards his former team, but the essence of the argument is that it's a 'big ask' for them to finish top 4, it'll take a lot of variables to favourably fall in place and that they can't lose Agger.

 

headline writers could've easily gone the other way and led with 'keegan downplays liverpool top 4 chances' from the exact same material, which shows the extent to which you just have to look at the quotes themselves and not the surrounding waffle.

[Cronky]

'It is a big ask but if all of these things come off they could be good enough.'

 

Now that's sticking your neck out.

 

[Interpolic]

Not sure Keegan says a lot wrong there tbh, he's a liverpool legend so is naturally going to be a tad charitable towards his former team, but the essence of the argument is that it's a 'big ask' for them to finish top 4, it'll take a lot of variables to favourably fall in place and that they can't lose Agger.

 

headline writers could've easily gone the other way and led with 'keegan downplays liverpool top 4 chances' from the exact same material, which shows the extent to which you just have to look at the quotes themselves and not the surrounding waffle.

 

Completely agree.  Liverpool certainly could finish top 4 this year if they got every break going, and that's essentially all he's really said.

[Guest neesy111]

I think parky will have won this battle by February.

[Wullie]

If anyone's interested, there was a "New Liverpool" 5Live Special tonight, available on iplayer. Perfect if you want to vomit up your own spleen.

 

Fucking detest the way the BBC Football team in its entirety is obsessed with that utter shitstain of a football club.

[Guest bimpy474]

If anyone's interested, there was a "New Liverpool" 5Live Special tonight, available on iplayer. Perfect if you want to vomit up your own spleen.

 

Fucking detest the way the BBC Football team in its entirety is obsessed with that utter shitstain of a football club.

 

 

Absolutely spot on.

[themanupstairs]

If anyone's interested, there was a "New Liverpool" 5Live Special tonight, available on iplayer. Perfect if you want to vomit up your own spleen.

 

f***ing detest the way the BBC Football team in its entirety is obsessed with that utter shitstain of a football club.

 

Cheers for that. Now I will know to avoid it like the plague. One mongfest I can do without

[taxfree]

The Director Of Communications for Liverpool, Jen Chang, seemingly doing all their scouting.

 

 

[colinmk]

Not sure Keegan says a lot wrong there tbh, he's a liverpool legend so is naturally going to be a tad charitable towards his former team, but the essence of the argument is that it's a 'big ask' for them to finish top 4, it'll take a lot of variables to favourably fall in place and that they can't lose Agger.

 

headline writers could've easily gone the other way and led with 'keegan downplays liverpool top 4 chances' from the exact same material, which shows the extent to which you just have to look at the quotes themselves and not the surrounding waffle.

 

Completely agree.  Liverpool certainly could finish top 4 this year if they got every break going, and that's essentially all he's really said.

 

Agree with you guys.

[Guest firetotheworks]

They just need to keep being awful and their popularity will decline. There's still a big hoo-har about them because there's still essentially a generation of people that were glory hunters/were used to them winning all the time, before SKY brought all the money into football.

 

A lot of these people probably work in football media as well, and they, along with their fans, just cannot let go of the past. In a few years time there'll only be an older generation who will only remember them winning the Champions League once and having dispicable fans.

[leffe186]

They just need to keep being awful and their popularity will decline. There's still a big hoo-har about them because there's still essentially a generation of people that were glory hunters/were used to them winning all the time, before SKY brought all the money into football.

 

A lot of these people probably work in football media as well, and they, along with their fans, just cannot let go of the past. In a few years time there'll only be an older generation who will only remember them winning the Champions League once and having dispicable fans.

 

Oh God I hope so. Problem is they're still followed in numbers abroad (the red colour thing?) and until this is eroded they will continue to generate enough money to compete. If they are still struggling by the time we build our new stadium then that might be curtains for them.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Unless they get a lucky break with Rodgers and get better, they're on the decline until they either pay someone ridiculous money to manage them and get them a title, or do it through knowing what they're doing. At the moment it looks like they're part way there by paying ridiculous money for people who don't know what they're doing.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Massive problem is the way they have overspent themselves into a hole. I know because we did it too. They spent tons of money on average players, and now have to attempt to spend a lot more to get out of it.

 

Seems a really, really difficult problem to solve unless Rodgers can get the current players to click in a major way.