Wil Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Pleased for McLeish, always struck me as a good bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 The criticism of Wenger is a bit mad like. His failings to buy where it matters aside, he has absolutely transformed that club. Still in the title race, Champions League every season for how long, just about the only club in the whole of the CL that's actually in the black , built their academy from the ground up, play great football etc etc. He's the manager not the accountant though although it has to be commended in a way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Funny how Lawrenson said "You have to feel sorry for Arsenal losing like that". Do you? They should have been a man down and probably a goal down in the first 3 minutes. Birmingham deservedly won. Wenger would be sacked by any other top 4 club for not winning a trophy for 5 years. Except that he's totally transformed the club from top to bottom and put it in a position to compete at the top for probably the next 10-20 years. They'll fail to make the top four when Fabregas leaves, and that won't be long. Wilshere will step up man. Arsene wont be sacked by Arsenal either. They are the only club consistently making profits each season and that is down to his philosophy. Wilshere will never be Fabregas. Completely different type of player. All I'm saying is that they have other players who have the potential to fill the gulf that will be left when he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 If Arsenal were to sack Wenger, does anybody think whoever they brought in would do any better with their budget? I'd argue no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Pleased for McLeish, always struck me as a good bloke. Ginger, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I've said for ages that Arsenal would clean up if they had two top-class, experienced and influential players in their ranks, but Wenger refuses to buy them. Alan Hansen was right when he said you don't win anything with kids in the sense that that Man Utd team had a few players that had been playing at the top level for years. Wouldn't be at all surprised if this keeps on happening to Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Pleased for McLeish, always struck me as a good bloke. Ginger, though. No soul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 The criticism of Wenger is a bit mad like. His failings to buy where it matters aside, he has absolutely transformed that club. Still in the title race, Champions League every season for how long, just about the only club in the whole of the CL that's actually in the black , built their academy from the ground up, play great football etc etc. He's the manager not the accountant though although it has to be commended in a way. They can't afford to spend big though, they're still paying off the new ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Funny how Lawrenson said "You have to feel sorry for Arsenal losing like that". Do you? They should have been a man down and probably a goal down in the first 3 minutes. Birmingham deservedly won. Wenger would be sacked by any other top 4 club for not winning a trophy for 5 years. Except that he's totally transformed the club from top to bottom and put it in a position to compete at the top for probably the next 10-20 years. They'll fail to make the top four when Fabregas leaves, and that won't be long. Wilshere will step up man. Arsene wont be sacked by Arsenal either. They are the only club consistently making profits each season and that is down to his philosophy. Wilshere will never be Fabregas. Completely different type of player. All I'm saying is that they have other players who have the potential to fill the gulf that will be left when he leaves. They don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Funny how Lawrenson said "You have to feel sorry for Arsenal losing like that". Do you? They should have been a man down and probably a goal down in the first 3 minutes. Birmingham deservedly won. Wenger would be sacked by any other top 4 club for not winning a trophy for 5 years. Except that he's totally transformed the club from top to bottom and put it in a position to compete at the top for probably the next 10-20 years. They'll fail to make the top four when Fabregas leaves, and that won't be long. Wilshere will step up man. Arsene wont be sacked by Arsenal either. They are the only club consistently making profits each season and that is down to his philosophy. Wilshere will never be Fabregas. Completely different type of player. All I'm saying is that they have other players who have the potential to fill the gulf that will be left when he leaves. They don't. you just know it all don't you lad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Not so sure what the goalkeeper did wrong. The defender takes almost all responsibility for not dealing with that ball IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Funny how Lawrenson said "You have to feel sorry for Arsenal losing like that". Do you? They should have been a man down and probably a goal down in the first 3 minutes. Birmingham deservedly won. Wenger would be sacked by any other top 4 club for not winning a trophy for 5 years. Except that he's totally transformed the club from top to bottom and put it in a position to compete at the top for probably the next 10-20 years. They'll fail to make the top four when Fabregas leaves, and that won't be long. Wilshere will step up man. Arsene wont be sacked by Arsenal either. They are the only club consistently making profits each season and that is down to his philosophy. Wilshere will never be Fabregas. Completely different type of player. All I'm saying is that they have other players who have the potential to fill the gulf that will be left when he leaves. They don't. you just know it all don't you lad? Hi mate, are you new? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Not so sure what the goalkeeper did wrong. The defender takes almost all responsibility for not dealing with that ball IMO. I still can't believe it was fucking Martins who tapped it in like - fucking hell man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Not so sure what the goalkeeper did wrong. The defender takes almost all responsibility for not dealing with that ball IMO. Yep. No way you go in swinging your leg like that if you don't clear it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Arsenal may be making profits, but it's not all that great when Wenger can't use that money in the right way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Fabregas is a world class attacking midfielder. There's nobody in their squad capable of replacing him and they'll have to look elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9408768.stm Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger on his side's Carling Cup final defeat: "A little misunderstanding had great consequences for the result. After that there was no time to come back and rectify it. I blame nobody, these kind of things are part of the game. It is very disappointing but we have to pick ourselves up for the next games - it is a good opportunity to show our mental strength, which I believe is is great." As your team often demonstrate when the going gets tough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 *cough* 4 *cough* 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Fabregas is a world class attacking midfielder. There's nobody in their squad capable of replacing him and they'll have to look elsewhere. Samir Nasri replaces him as he did to great effect earlier in the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Have to get a picture of the crestfallen Szczesny and Koscielny looking at each other with Wilshere in the background with a shocked expression? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I'm really happy for Birmingham and their fans. Sod European places for everyone else, I just love when the under-dog beat one of the big clubs to win a trophy. Arsenal went in as favourites, and probably thought they just had to turn up. To see their fans crying on the telly is brilliant! The bitterness and jealousy in this thread is unbelievable man! You said you'd prefer another team winning a trophy to the team you supposedly support having a decent chance of making it into European competition. You really have no place criticising anyone. Do you really think with the team we have we could compete in Europe next year? Be serious man! Of course not. There is something called a transfer window though, and with European competition all of a sudden we look a lot more attractive to potential players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Not so sure what the goalkeeper did wrong. The defender takes almost all responsibility for not dealing with that ball IMO. Yep. No way you go in swinging your leg like that if you don't clear it. One of those where we don't really know who messed up most. All depends if the keeper clearly called for it or not. If he didn't and just appeared as thingie was about to clear then that's not good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 pissed off that Birmingham won this and pissed off that Martins scored the winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9408768.stm Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger on his side's Carling Cup final defeat: "A little misunderstanding had great consequences for the result. After that there was no time to come back and rectify it. I blame nobody, these kind of things are part of the game. It is very disappointing but we have to pick ourselves up for the next games - it is a good opportunity to show our mental strength, which I believe is is great." As your team often demonstrate when the going gets tough. We can get to see this mental strength, great! Shame their "mental strength" will get them no trophies yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 The criticism of Wenger is a bit mad like. His failings to buy where it matters aside, he has absolutely transformed that club. Still in the title race, Champions League every season for how long, just about the only club in the whole of the CL that's actually in the black , built their academy from the ground up, play great football etc etc. He's the manager not the accountant though although it has to be commended in a way. They can't afford to spend big though, they're still paying off the new ground. Doesn't have to spend 'big', he spent £11.8m (reportedly) on two mediocre centre backs when for the same price he'd probably to be able to get the one big first team presence they need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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