midds Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 A loan deal (with or without an option to buy) could and should have been sewn up weeks ago for the lad. Squabbling over a few hundred grand is going to cost us. Good players cost good money. How exactly? Am I wrong in remebering that Marseille pulled out of the agreement? Depends on who and what you believe. I believe there was a deal to be done weeks ago before it generated into a saga and we fudged it because we were tight c***s. That's my belief and I've got no way of proving or disproving it btw. Wasn't that deal dependant on us buying him if we stayed up or he played 25 league games. Would you have agreed to that if it was your decision? Yes - in a heartbeat. Why? That presents numerous problems, just look at Dindane's loan to Pompey for one example. It's a heck of a gamble. If it didn't work out we'd still sell him on for a small profit or loss. He's a quality player and clubs are always looking for good players and most are prepared to pay for them. Not exactly rocket science tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 A loan deal (with or without an option to buy) could and should have been sewn up weeks ago for the lad. Squabbling over a few hundred grand is going to cost us. Good players cost good money. How exactly? Am I wrong in remebering that Marseille pulled out of the agreement? Depends on who and what you believe. I believe there was a deal to be done weeks ago before it generated into a saga and we fudged it because we were tight c***s. That's my belief and I've got no way of proving or disproving it btw. Wasn't that deal dependant on us buying him if we stayed up or he played 25 league games. Would you have agreed to that if it was your decision? Yes - in a heartbeat. Why? That presents numerous problems, just look at Dindane's loan to Pompey for one example. It's a heck of a gamble. If it didn't work out we'd still sell him on for a small profit or loss. He's a quality player and clubs are always looking for good players and most are prepared to pay for them. Not exactly rocket science tbh. If these clubs are always looking for quality players how do you explain the lack of interest this time round? You have to remember he's essentially fallen out with 2 clubs, if it happens again why would anyone bother? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Man Ure, Liverpool, Arsenal and us are meant to be the English clubs IF and its a big IF that is true.. I can see his desperation to join us fading fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Arsenal have Nasri, Arshavin, Rosicky, Wilshere, Vela etc. so I don't see why they'd need him. Liverpool might do. And if Man United do, they'll not mind lending us Cleverley will they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 If Tottenham succeed in going through tomorrow and they go on to sign all these top players they're supposedly after, then we should really try and see if we can get Giovanni Dos Santos off them. Dos Santos shares similar qualities and would be a really good alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 He's quality. He'll always be in demand from clubs who have a manager who can handle his type of character. He'll always have offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 If Tottenham succeed in going through tomorrow and they go on to sign all these top players they're supposedly after, then we should really try and see if we can get Giovanni Dos Santos off them. Dos Santos shares similar qualities and would be a really good alternative. I'd rather have O'Hara than Dos Santos. I still would like Ben Arfa, though I have said all along it won't happen. I don't believe a word of the crap about other English clubs being interested in him, it smells of OM trying to get more out of him and the fact that those clubs would have jumped to get him when we agreed a fee for him and when he came to Newcastle, they wouldn't of risked losing him to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 O'Hara is far too similar to what we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 He's quality. He'll always be in demand from clubs who have a manager who can handle his type of character. He'll always have offers. How many times have you watched him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 A loan deal (with or without an option to buy) could and should have been sewn up weeks ago for the lad. Squabbling over a few hundred grand is going to cost us. Good players cost good money. How exactly? Am I wrong in remebering that Marseille pulled out of the agreement? Depends on who and what you believe. I believe there was a deal to be done weeks ago before it generated into a saga and we fudged it because we were tight c***s. That's my belief and I've got no way of proving or disproving it btw. Wasn't that deal dependant on us buying him if we stayed up or he played 25 league games. Would you have agreed to that if it was your decision? Yes - in a heartbeat. Why? That presents numerous problems, just look at Dindane's loan to Pompey for one example. It's a heck of a gamble. If it didn't work out we'd still sell him on for a small profit or loss. He's a quality player and clubs are always looking for good players and most are prepared to pay for them. Not exactly rocket science tbh. That's just risible nonsense, man. No one wants to fork out anything for him right now, despite his obvious talent and Marseille being desperate to get rid. Yet you'd expect us to make a profit on this obvious loon and trouble-maker after a season that "didn't work out"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 @Funguslover From what I've been told it seems as though a permanent future fee was agreed but #ben #arfas wage (cont) .#Marc #Wilson of #Portsmouth a very real prospect. Prospective talks have taken place but very early days. #nufc. Hmm we'll see shall we Marc Wilson would be a cracking signing. Another name in the hat for RB, CB or Central mid. Buy him and shift Alan Smith out the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I believe that the additional complication here is that Ben Arfa has fallen out with his agent / adviser and isn't co-operating with any efforts to find a club other than us. I'm sure that if Arsenal or Man U got involved then his interest might be re-awakened, but I can't see that happening. So I think all these random statements that are fed to the French press about this, that or the other club, are just covering up the fact that, at the moment, nothing is happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 @Funguslover From what I've been told it seems as though a permanent future fee was agreed but #ben #arfas wage (cont) .#Marc #Wilson of #Portsmouth a very real prospect. Prospective talks have taken place but very early days. #nufc. Hmm we'll see shall we Marc Wilson would be a cracking signing. Another name in the hat for RB, CB or Central mid. Buy him and shift Alan Smith out the door. Marc Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 A loan deal (with or without an option to buy) could and should have been sewn up weeks ago for the lad. Squabbling over a few hundred grand is going to cost us. Good players cost good money. How exactly? Am I wrong in remebering that Marseille pulled out of the agreement? Depends on who and what you believe. I believe there was a deal to be done weeks ago before it generated into a saga and we fudged it because we were tight c***s. That's my belief and I've got no way of proving or disproving it btw. Wasn't that deal dependant on us buying him if we stayed up or he played 25 league games. Would you have agreed to that if it was your decision? Yes - in a heartbeat. Why? That presents numerous problems, just look at Dindane's loan to Pompey for one example. It's a heck of a gamble. If it didn't work out we'd still sell him on for a small profit or loss. He's a quality player and clubs are always looking for good players and most are prepared to pay for them. Not exactly rocket science tbh. Jesus. Remind me again what Marseille paid for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 €11 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/08/25/2086665/liverpool-eye-7m-rated-olympique-marseille-midfielder-hatem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Have liverpool got 7 mil? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Have liverpool got 7 mil? barca have, liverpool have got a mascherano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 goal.com and the daily star? Fuck me sideways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Liverpool have also been linked with Carlton Cole, who seems a more likely target. They looked seriously short of muscle power up front against Man City. They already have Joe Cole for Ben Arfa's position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning_Linguist Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Please, Not Liverpool! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchWilliam Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 He was in England on Tuesday according to this article, apparently negotiating with Liverpool, but the deal will hinge on Mascherano movig to Barcelona: http://www.francefootball.fr/FF/breves2010/20100825_100213_ben-arfa-liverpool-ca-brule.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 If he wants to play in his favourite central position then he won't be going to Liverpool. Only way we will get him is if he hasn't signed for anyone by deadline day and then he comes on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Joe Cole will be happy :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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