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Steve Taylor is a central defender not a RB despite everyone getting carried away by a few decent runs down the flank.

 

I've always preferred Stave Taylor in the centre but at this time he's the best we've got for right-back.

 

I'd like to see him week in week out at RB before I made that call. A couple of flashy runs as a stand-in doesn't qualify him for the accolades in my view.

 

Which accolades? :lol:

 

Folk just think he's better than Raylor, Perch and Simpson.

 

based on a couple of barnstorming runs as a fill-in?

 

Well, no. He's a better defender than the lot, and better going forward.

 

Better going forward I will give you but a better defender at RB I think is a just an easy answer. 

 

No, it's the right answer.

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I thought the centre backs were okay. The midfield though offered little protection and the pressure on the back four was unbearable.

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Im normally rough on Colo, but i thought he had a decent game overall.

 

Stopped rooney when he was near through on goal.

 

Thought both, Coloccini and Williamson did quite well.

 

We've seen much worse at Old Trafford with the likes of Boumsong.

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I thought Harper was disappointing tonight

 

1st he was too close to his near post and left a huge gap to slot into the back post & instead of diving to his right he tried to use his feet and ended up falling backwards.

 

2nd goal he didnt make much of an effort to try and save then decided to dive after the ball was in the net, super slow mo style.

 

3rd goal was just a good strike from Giggs.

 

Not the worst performance of the day but something to think about

 

 

Wasn't much he could have done for the first. He had to reposition himself after Enrique kicked the ball forward.

 

He should have saved the third though. It was a good strike but other keepers would have been able to keep it out.

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Steve Taylor is a central defender not a RB despite everyone getting carried away by a few decent runs down the flank.

 

I've always preferred Stave Taylor in the centre but at this time he's the best we've got for right-back.

 

I'd like to see him week in week out at RB before I made that call. A couple of flashy runs as a stand-in doesn't qualify him for the accolades in my view.

 

Which accolades? :lol:

 

Folk just think he's better than Raylor, Perch and Simpson.

 

based on a couple of barnstorming runs as a fill-in?

 

Well, no. He's a better defender than the lot, and better going forward.

 

Better going forward I will give you but a better defender at RB I think is a just an easy answer. 

 

No, it's the right answer.

 

No it's a dumb answer.

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The ridiculous nonsense on this forum is astounding. You've even managed to put to shame some of the stupid fuckers sat around me at the game tonight.

 

A few months back, Man U beat Milan 4-0 at Old Trafford, destroyed them in 3rd gear. This is no litmus test whatsoever for individuals players or the the team as a whole.

 

Out of interest, what was your opinion on Colocinni tonight?

 

Very poor imo.. hes so fkn weak, (Fletcher's goal)

 

That is not weak man. The ball luckily fell to Fletcher - what was he suppossed to do pull him down. He was always going to be standing that side (goalside) of Fletcher due to the nature of the play and from that sort of range Colo had no chance. It was either pull him down and give away a pen or the goal. The build up was to blame for that goal.

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Thought Jonas was impressive tbh when i watched. Didnt catch much of the first goal, but looked to me like he had stepped up a level. Went past his marker several times, was dribbling across the width of the pitch at times with the ball to try to open things up. Just didnt have much support atall.

 

 

His end product is so fucking bad. We need wingers who can find AC's head.

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Hughton revealed Danny Guthrie had been forced to miss the game with a knee problem, whilst Peter Lovenkrands felt a twinge in his groin on Sunday, although neither injury is thought to be serious.
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Out of that team I think Williamson, Colo, Enrique, Routeledge, Barton and Carroll will be fine this season. Its the other players that worry me. Jonas will be very handy for us against the lesser teams but I don't think he is much of an asset to us away from home against decent opposition. WIth our current team though we have no option but to play him.

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I thought the centre backs were okay. The midfield though offered little protection and the pressure on the back four was unbearable.

This.

 

Perch looked nervous in the 1st half but settled down a bit in the 2nd.

Thought Williamson and Collocinni did as well as they could considering the midfield was over ran.

Smith was okay but Nolan and Barton inparticular were poor.

 

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Thought Jonas was impressive tbh when i watched. Didnt catch much of the first goal, but looked to me like he had stepped up a level. Went past his marker several times, was dribbling across the width of the pitch at times with the ball to try to open things up. Just didnt have much support atall.

 

His end product is so f***ing bad. We need wingers who can find AC's head.

 

We're not going to get a perfect winger who can both cross perfectly & beat his man & break out of defence with pace any time soon.

 

If you werent complaining about one itd be the other. Jonas can put in a decent cross, his only real weakness is shooting. Its acceptable, for our team hes a good player.

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I don't want to overrate Guthrie but I think we could have done with him tonight. He always makes himself available for the ball and plays the simple pass. Too often tonight we would get the ball and absolutely no one was showing for it, resulting in us either humping it long for Carroll who would flick it on to no one at all, or just kicking it straight to their defenders. Obviously Man U deserve some credit for this, though, due to their incredible closing down.

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I don't want to overrate Guthrie but I think we could have done with him tonight. He always makes himself available for the ball and plays the simple pass. Too often tonight we would get the ball and absolutely no one was showing for it, resulting in us either humping it long for Carroll who would flick it on to no one at all, or just kicking it straight to their defenders. Obviously Man U deserve some credit for this, though, due to their incredible closing down.

Few times Carroll was chasing his own flick ons.

 

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I don't want to overrate Guthrie but I think we could have done with him tonight. He always makes himself available for the ball and plays the simple pass. Too often tonight we would get the ball and absolutely no one was showing for it, resulting in us either humping it long for Carroll who would flick it on to no one at all, or just kicking it straight to their defenders. Obviously Man U deserve some credit for this, though, due to their incredible closing down.

 

:thup:

 

Guthrie's nowt special but he knows how to move into space in order to receive the ball. Keeping the ball better in the first place is far superior to trying to win it back all the time.

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Thougt Williamson and colo did well. As did Jose, Valencia didn't get a sniff IMO.

Harper should have done better on the third, went down in installments (as ever).

 

Didn't expect anything else tonight, they're one of the worlds best sides and we were ona hiding to nowt. Our season wnt be dictated by games against teams like man utd. Season states next week for me.

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Fully expected today to happen, a bit disappointed with the way we conceaded those goals but we were going to conceade goals anyway so it dosn't matter, have to say Carroll was really  good today and hope he carries on playing like this, just needs to start scoring more, the rest will get better as the season goes on.

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If carroll's playing as a lone striker i'd expect him to try to bring it down and keep possession rather than flick it on. Where's his brains? Winning the header might look impressive but if the ch knows that his team are going to pick possession up straight away then it becomes canny dumb.

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It's a dumb answer that a better defender should be in the defence? :lol:

 

Perch's qualities are his defensive attributes. He's lightning quick for example. He's shit going forward though...which is why your answer was a dumb one.

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If carroll's playing as a lone striker i'd expect him to try to bring it down and keep possession rather than flick it on. Where's his brains? Winning the header might look impressive but if the ch knows that his team are going to pick possession up straight away then it becomes canny dumb.

sometime he may just try to win the header in the hope that someone has took the gamble ads opposed to trying to bring it down when vidic is trying to win the header.
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It's a dumb answer that a better defender should be in the defence? :lol:

 

Perch's qualities are his defensive attributes. He's lightning quick for example. He's s*** going forward though...which is why your answer was a dumb one.

 

You're getting confused now. All I said was that Taylor is better defensively, which any monkey can see.

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