Tachikoma Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 - Barton was just as bad. He couldn't get a pass right, his set pieces were terrible and he gave the ball away on a ridiculous amount of occaisons - and some people said he's the best CM we have. The thing is, he was, this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Williamson was impressive, even more so when you take into account it's his first PL game and his team-mates in defense were crap today. I thought he did very well today, I'd put him ahead of Colo if we had Campbell fit to be in contention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 In hindsight I'm happy this was the ifrst game. Should really wake people up from the outset. This is the level you are at now, and it is no joke. At the same time it shouldn't get too much worse than this so take advantage of the lesser teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Only saw the last twenty-five minutes. Thought you looked OK (much better than, say, West Ham), but Man U seemed so half-arsed it was difficult to tell how well you were doing. The next two games will be telling - a good side at home then the kind of away game you should be looking for a point from. Carroll looked dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I'd have probably settled for that before the game. The goals came through individula errors but I think Man U forced the errors by pushing high up the field and not letting us have any time or space. Their movement was fantastic and we got pulled all over the place for 10 or 15 minutes before we eventually conceded. As the half went on we chased them and our back 4 were pushed further and further back. Carroll was superb, our heads didn't go down, we created genuine chances, no-one got injured and our season starts on Sunday. Pretty much agree with that We're pretty much a ST to play alongside Carroll (Bellamy-esque) and an AM to plug that gap (Ben Arfa-esque) away from mounting a serious challenge to stay up IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Harper - 7 - Most of what went in wasn't his fault at all. Could have done better for first. Saved a couple of decent opportunities for them. Perch - 3 - Exposed. Utterly. He looked nervous and out of his depth in the first half. Only less so in the second because they went after Enrique more. Coloccini - 6 - Shaky. Decent in actual defending largely but looked nervous also, as a matter of fact. Williamson - 7 - Good in the air. Probably our most solid defender tonight. Enrique - 6 - He's better than that. Hopefully just rusty. Smith - 7 - Not understanding all the hate. Did his job, and much better than Butt would have. Barton - 6 - Potential is there. Hopefully it'll continue to grow. Nolan - 3 - Anonymous. Did he do a single thing apart from slow everything down? Only noteworthy incident was when his balls got crushed in the wall for their free kick. TBF, he's hard to miss. Jonas - 5 - Poor. A shadow of how he played at OT two seasons ago. Hopefully he sharpens up soon. Routledge - 6.5 - Looked like he was determined, and level-headed, but lacked that grit in the final third. Maybe because there was rarely anyone ahead of him. Carroll - 7 - Led the line well, never gave up on anything and did cause them a few problems. Should have taken that header tho. Ameobi - 6 - Not much time on the pitch. Xisco - 6 - Ditto, but decent in the few touches he did have. Should have tracked back to help Enrique more, though, from that position. What? You mean by being lucky not to give away a penalty and fuck all else? _I_ could have done better than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 As good as Carroll was he really has to put chances like that away regardless of the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Not that bad really, just a lot of sloppy mistakes... especially an inexplicable inability to clear the ball from defence. I'll never understand that one. Nolan was bad, but then he always is. In the Championship he can get away with it because the opposition is so much worse. I really hope we drop him if we get Ben Arfa in. Smith was also pretty poor most of the time. I saw enough to think we can do better than terrible this season, if we'd had Guthrie for a bit of passing and maybe Loven for a bit more threat up front, we might have tested them more. Would've loved Carroll to have scored, he had a good game and is unplayable a lot of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris P Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Carroll was a total beast. Hope it continues, he could have a great season. Hope he keeps looking out the corner of his eye's. Some one soon is gonna be told "first five minutes, take Carroll's legs out" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I've only seen the third goal but Man Utd are just another tier when it comes to turning a mistake into a gift. The last goal, when Jose gave the ball away: Championship - no repercussions. Stoke/Wigan/Bolton type - probably get away with it 9 times out of ten. Top 8 - could turn it into a goalscoring opportunity. Man Utd - a gift. I know that's quite a mechanical and generic way of looking at it, but you catch my drift. Had we have lost 3-0 on the opening day to Wolves or Villa or something, it'd have been really disheartening. The mistakes we made were somewhat inevitable... it's going to take us time to acclimatise to this league, especially when we've had literally everything all our own way for the last 12 months. Making those mistakes against Man Utd, in hindsight, were probably bound to happen. The good thing is though, there was no cardinal errors - it's stuff that can and will be worked on. We'll improve from here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynufc Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Jose didn't get forward as much as normal meaning Jonas kept running into the centre and getting lost at the few times we went forwards - hopefully that was just a tactical thing with playing Man U and not something that carrys on throughout the season. Williamson I thought was canny, though could easily have had a mare if he didn't rectify his mistakes as he did. Perch, like everyone has said wasn't fantastic but he is young playing against one of the best teams in the world. He won't struggle as much against a team like Stoke. Routledge didn't cross as well as he has done pre season - though I think this is mainly due to Evra having him in his pocket most of the game. Carroll for me was our MoM, held everything well and got back. Though dropped quite deep, fair enough he probably had to as he had no service, but when we had a chance to break he was never forward. Another striker or creative/attacking midfielder needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pedro_de_geordieo Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 For me they all looked out of shape and short of match sharpness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Would agree about Nolan, Barton and Smith getting 7 or 8. As a combined mark of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Dont think Carroll is suited to playing up front on his own though, he needs support. The players who thrive up front by themselves are the all singing all dancing types who can make their own chances, score headers, outside the box etc. That's why the likes of Drogba are indespensible. Would much rather see AC with a strike partner. Difference is Chelsea have so much of the ball that Drogba is never isolated. Totally, totally different scenarios. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Would agree about Nolan, Barton and Smith getting 7 or 8. As a combined mark of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Just a word for Perch and Routledge... they were pretty poor but they were facing one of the best RW combinations in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Anyone in the press evers writes "Geordies are delusional" just send them this thread never has a 3-0 defeat ever been so acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I acknowledge this statement may sound daft as we've just let in 3, but the centre halves looked very solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Anybody else getting pissed off with how much hairy hands and Andy Gray fucking adore glory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Harper - Looked slow for their third, couldn't really do much with the other goals though. Couple of good saves as well. Perch - Got better in the second half, but he still looked out of his depth for most of the game. Hopefully just needs some time to settle. Williamson - A couple of mistakes that nearly cost us, bar that he played very well, especially considering the opposition and that this was his PL debut. Colo - See Williamson. Enrique looked solid, shame he gave the ball away like he did for their third though. Our best player by a mile IMO. Routledge - Tried hard, but his passing was terrible. Will be an important player for us this season. Barton - Worked his socks off and won a fair few tackles. His passing needs to get better, but I reckon it will when he'll a little more time on the ball before being closed down as quickly as he was today. Smith - Fuck off, wank again. Jonas - See Routledge. Nolan - Was he even on the pitch? Carroll - Did very well tonight. Looks a lot quicker than last season and seems hungry. Will do well this season IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mani Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Dont think Carroll is suited to playing up front on his own though, he needs support. The players who thrive up front by themselves are the all singing all dancing types who can make their own chances, score headers, outside the box etc. That's why the likes of Drogba are indespensible. Would much rather see AC with a strike partner. he wasnt playing on his own, Nolan was so non existent is what made it look like he was playing on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Harper- 6- I don't think there was too much he could have done Perch- 4- Not that bad a performance, but had a big job and was under a lot of pressure Williamson- 7- Liked him a lot. Solid and worked hard, Coloccini- 5- A bit shakey Enrique- 5- Gave away some balls too easily and wasn't up to his best Routledge- 6- He worked hard, but had a tough job, Smith- 5- He wasn't that bad really, made a few good blocks, Barton- 5- Gave some possession away far too easily Jonas- 4- Not his best night Nolan- 4- Off the beat Carroll- 8- Battled so well, our MOTM. Needs a good partner up there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I'd have probably settled for that before the game. The goals came through individula errors but I think Man U forced the errors by pushing high up the field and not letting us have any time or space. Their movement was fantastic and we got pulled all over the place for 10 or 15 minutes before we eventually conceded. As the half went on we chased them and our back 4 were pushed further and further back. Carroll was superb, our heads didn't go down, we created genuine chances, no-one got injured and our season starts on Sunday. Pretty much agree with that We're pretty much a ST to play alongside Carroll (Bellamy-esque) and an AM to plug that gap (Ben Arfa-esque) away from mounting a serious challenge to stay up IMO. We were making these mistakes last season too. Only difference is that the likes of Berbatov and Giggs will punish you for them where as strikers last season put them wide or straight at Harper. Need to cut that out but I'm fairly encouraged by what I've seen, despite the score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Anybody else getting pissed off with how much hairy hands and Andy Gray fucking adore glory? I was thinking this as well, as in the relegation season the main problem is that we have the worst central midfield ever created. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Anyone in the press evers writes "Geordies are delusional" just send them this thread never has a 3-0 defeat ever been so acceptable. Really can't tell if your being sarcastic or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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