David Edgar Posted Monday at 04:29 Share Posted Monday at 04:29 11 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Reveal hidden contents The Athletic. Villa will need to sell to compensate for losses that total over £200million in the previous two yearly accounts, regardless of whether they qualify for the Champions League. They boast large assets in their squad, which other clubs have an interest in, so, in this regard, selling would not be an issue. Crucially, though, qualification would then enable recruitment staff to be more ambitious in who they want to sign and the financial outlay they can offer, both in salaries and fees. Without participation in Europe’s blue-chip competition, Villa’s squad size will have to be reduced and wage bill — which stands at 91 per cent — will have to be cut more dramatically than intended to comply with UEFA’s rule of 70 per cent limit of club turnover being spent on wages. This would lead to the calibre of player Villa are aiming to recruit likely being from a slightly lower starting point. Of course, this is a farce to protect the cartel. We shouldn't laugh. Villa are not being allowed to compete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted Monday at 04:36 Share Posted Monday at 04:36 7 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Of course, this is a farce to protect the cartel. We shouldn't laugh. Villa are not being allowed to compete. But they voted for this didn't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted Monday at 04:41 Share Posted Monday at 04:41 4 minutes ago, gazza ladra said: But they voted for this didn't they? They voted against it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted Monday at 05:27 Share Posted Monday at 05:27 (edited) Zero fucks given because they ultimately imploded after the disallowed goal. Keep your head for another 15 minutes, park the bus and you're in the Champions League if it remains a draw. If they had needed a win or lost 1-0 I would feel more sympathetic but ultimately it didn't matter since they lost 2-0 anyway. Edited Monday at 05:28 by Pandamninator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted Monday at 05:29 Share Posted Monday at 05:29 1 minute ago, Pandamninator said: Zero fucks given because they ultimately imploded after the disallowed goal. They should have been 2 or 3 down before the martinez red card by all accounts It's like us complaining not getting cl whilst putting in that performance yesterday Fuck them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poon Raccoon Posted Monday at 05:38 Share Posted Monday at 05:38 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Hide contents The Athletic. Villa will need to sell to compensate for losses that total over £200million in the previous two yearly accounts, regardless of whether they qualify for the Champions League. They boast large assets in their squad, which other clubs have an interest in, so, in this regard, selling would not be an issue. Crucially, though, qualification would then enable recruitment staff to be more ambitious in who they want to sign and the financial outlay they can offer, both in salaries and fees. Without participation in Europe’s blue-chip competition, Villa’s squad size will have to be reduced and wage bill — which stands at 91 per cent — will have to be cut more dramatically than intended to comply with UEFA’s rule of 70 per cent limit of club turnover being spent on wages. This would lead to the calibre of player Villa are aiming to recruit likely being from a slightly lower starting point. And yet Man U, running out of money by Christmas, not making Europe, just soldier on as if nothing's happened. Fuck me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted Monday at 06:21 Share Posted Monday at 06:21 Wouldn't be as big a deal without PSR ramifications so hope it causes the FA a lot of negative shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Monday at 06:31 Share Posted Monday at 06:31 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mazzy said: Is it even that bad of a mistake? I think it's getting totally blown out of proportion because it's the last game of the season. If this happens in any other month of the season it gets moved on from pretty quickly. How many times have we had a player breaking free only for the ref to blow up because a defender fell over? It happens atleast once every few weeks or something, Villa just have the hilarious money shot of the ball hitting the net when the goal would have won them a CL place. The problem is if it WAS a soft foul, VAR don't intervene and a goal is given regardless due to the 'clear and obvious' ruling. It's a daft system but the ref cannot be blamed imo. Edited Monday at 07:08 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted Monday at 06:44 Share Posted Monday at 06:44 Couldn’t have happened to a nicer club…all the toys are out the pram now, lovely to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted Monday at 06:48 Share Posted Monday at 06:48 NFG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 06:59 Share Posted Monday at 06:59 2 hours ago, David Edgar said: They voted against it. They voted for it, when the take over happened mate. Only nufc voted against it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Monday at 07:09 Share Posted Monday at 07:09 2 hours ago, David Edgar said: They voted against it. Fuck them, complicit as everyone apart from Man City in the voting patterns until it became clear it hurt them once they got some success: Post takeover vote 1: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/19/premier-league-clubs-v-newcastle-inside-the-stunning-emergency-vote Post takeover vote 2: https://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2023/11/22/results-of-second-premier-league-vote-go-public-as-7-clubs-stand-by-newcastle/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted Monday at 07:10 Share Posted Monday at 07:10 They’d be pissing themselves laughing if it was the other way around. Fuck them. Fuck all the other teams. Alll we care about… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 07:13 Share Posted Monday at 07:13 2 hours ago, David Edgar said: Of course, this is a farce to protect the cartel. We shouldn't laugh. Villa are not being allowed to compete. Hey, I think we're rewriting history here, like I said before when the takeover happened. Seventeen Premier League clubs voted for these rules—Villa included—just to stop NUFC. Leeds, Villa, and Brighton even joined the cartel to block us and protect themselves. They were shortsighted; Amanda warned them, but they still voted for it. Those cartel clubs can't run the league without other teams; they need at least 14 votes to get anything passed. That's 5 cartel clubs (Man City usually sits out or votes no) and 9 others. See, it was clubs like Villa that shielded the cartel in 2021. Obviously since then they have been voting against them, but at the point of the take over they wanted to screw us over and have us relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted Monday at 07:15 Share Posted Monday at 07:15 3 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Fuck them, complicit as everyone apart from Man City in the voting patterns until it became clear it hurt them once they got some success: Post takeover vote 1: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/19/premier-league-clubs-v-newcastle-inside-the-stunning-emergency-vote Post takeover vote 2: https://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2023/11/22/results-of-second-premier-league-vote-go-public-as-7-clubs-stand-by-newcastle/ This. The whole league wanted to stop us and have us relegated. We were bottom with zero wins at the time. They screwed us big time. Amanda Staveley warned them, and they didn't listen. So yes. Fuck them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted Monday at 09:03 Share Posted Monday at 09:03 It looks like Karma caught up with the Villa fans at last. They were very unlucky with Rogers' goal. I did get a little bit of experience at reffing in my younger days, and one of the first lessons I came across was the need to make decisions fairly quickly. Football is a fast and fluid game, and if you hesitate, the ball can be on another part of the pitch before you know it. It's then difficult to drag the play back for a free kick. That ref yesterday could have given himself a bit more time, but it was an unusual situation. It would have been easy to assume that the keeper had gathered the ball, because he had plenty of time to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted Monday at 09:26 Share Posted Monday at 09:26 Complaining about the referee selection is so classless and to do so publicly they should face punitive action imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted Monday at 09:32 Share Posted Monday at 09:32 3 minutes ago, Cf said: Complaining about the referee selection is so classless and to do so publicly they should face punitive action imo. I understand their annoyance having just seen it, but nothings gonna change, it's tough shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted Monday at 09:35 Share Posted Monday at 09:35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Monday at 09:37 Share Posted Monday at 09:37 Just now, TK-421 said: wtf? may as well replay the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted Monday at 09:37 Share Posted Monday at 09:37 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Cf said: Complaining about the referee selection is so classless and to do so publicly they should face punitive action imo. Honestly, the way Emery was jumping around on the touchline when it happened, there is absolutely no way he could have seen from where he was whether it was actually a foul, and then the way he went on when the penalty was given (exaggerated applause for the ref). Absolute tool. Edited Monday at 09:59 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Monday at 09:40 Share Posted Monday at 09:40 I've no great hatred of Villa but it's absolutely excellent for us that we not only got CL but potentially stuck a dagger into their progress (if it's true they have to sell etc). I wonder if we might nick a player off them before the PSR deadline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 09:40 Share Posted Monday at 09:40 Just now, STM said: I've no great hatred of Villa but it's absolutely excellent for us that we not only got CL but potentially stuck a dagger into their progress (if it's true they have to sell etc). I wonder if we might nick a player off them before the PSR deadline. Would love Kamara. Still gutted we didn't get him when he was free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted Monday at 09:41 Share Posted Monday at 09:41 12 minutes ago, Cf said: Complaining about the referee selection is so classless and to do so publicly they should face punitive action imo. Yep, only raising the issue beforehand would make it valid. Complaining after a perceived injustice is just petty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Monday at 09:41 Share Posted Monday at 09:41 they'll be feeling like we did after the PSG away game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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