GuyP Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 i agree we sold at the right time and alot of comments in this thread, but the West Ham fans seem to have a notion that a captain should charge round the pitch and shout alot to be a good captain...i wonder who their ex-captain was?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Have to say there is deja vu there and I liked the sell out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I was concerned about Nolan ages before most were, and got quite a tongue lashing for it at the time. The guy is inexcusably unfit and we were unbeleivably fortunate to have Tiote come in last season and perform so outstandingly all year, with no ACN to worry about too. I honestly don't believe we would have stayed up otherwise. So happy, Pardew and the owners were strong enough to get rid of him. The argument that his goals won us games was never valid for me. This is because in my eyes he made the team far more vulnerable to conceding goals, and moreover his lack of contribution to build up play, meant that we likely created far less scoring moves/chances. Very happy he's someone else's problem. He is on a huge 5 year contract at West Ham, and they will regret it massively. No amount of vibrating plates or ice baths will bring that body of his back to life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 As I've said before, I can see him being way too far into his comfort zone there with that manager, his status after taking us up and scoring loads, being a big signing for them etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I was concerned about Nolan ages before most were, and got quite a tongue lashing for it at the time. The guy is inexcusably unfit and we were unbeleivably fortunate to have Tiote come in last season and perform so outstandingly all year, with no ACN to worry about too. I honestly don't believe we would have stayed up otherwise. So happy, Pardew and the owners were strong enough to get rid of him. The argument that his goals won us games was never valid for me. This is because in my eyes he made the team far more vulnerable to conceding goals, and moreover his lack of contribution to build up play, meant that we likely created far less scoring moves/chances. Very happy he's someone else's problem. He is on a huge 5 year contract at West Ham, and they will regret it massively. No amount of vibrating plates or ice baths will bring that body of his back to life. There is that saying, "Goals wins you games" though Valid enough argument like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I was concerned about Nolan ages before most were, and got quite a tongue lashing for it at the time. The guy is inexcusably unfit and we were unbeleivably fortunate to have Tiote come in last season and perform so outstandingly all year, with no ACN to worry about too. I honestly don't believe we would have stayed up otherwise. So happy, Pardew and the owners were strong enough to get rid of him. The argument that his goals won us games was never valid for me. This is because in my eyes he made the team far more vulnerable to conceding goals, and moreover his lack of contribution to build up play, meant that we likely created far less scoring moves/chances. Very happy he's someone else's problem. He is on a huge 5 year contract at West Ham, and they will regret it massively. No amount of vibrating plates or ice baths will bring that body of his back to life. Even though statistically it was correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I was concerned about Nolan ages before most were, and got quite a tongue lashing for it at the time. The guy is inexcusably unfit and we were unbeleivably fortunate to have Tiote come in last season and perform so outstandingly all year, with no ACN to worry about too. I honestly don't believe we would have stayed up otherwise. So happy, Pardew and the owners were strong enough to get rid of him. The argument that his goals won us games was never valid for me. This is because in my eyes he made the team far more vulnerable to conceding goals, and moreover his lack of contribution to build up play, meant that we likely created far less scoring moves/chances. Very happy he's someone else's problem. He is on a huge 5 year contract at West Ham, and they will regret it massively. No amount of vibrating plates or ice baths will bring that body of his back to life. Even though statistically it was correct? Preston away comes to mind immediately... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 As I've said before, I can see him being way too far into his comfort zone there with that manager, his status after taking us up and scoring loads, being a big signing for them etc etc. True. But, those comments mimic ours from the Championship season entirely. If they do come up, they're gonna need their own Tioté next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 As I've said before, I can see him being way too far into his comfort zone there with that manager, his status after taking us up and scoring loads, being a big signing for them etc etc. Probably haven't said it (certainly not on here), but I've thought that myself a few times. Can see him not really being arsed to do more than what is just necessary, which is the complete opposite of the feeling I got from him here, that he wanted to show what he could do and keep proving himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Sounds exactly like his time here, except he scored for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Sounds exactly like his time here, except he scored for us. Yup. The stick he got on his barren goalscoring runs on here was far worse than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 How many has he scored for them so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 How many has he scored for them so far? 2 in 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Bolton fans complained when he was there as well. Still think they'll win promotion. And the complaining will continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 They should go up. 5 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 How many has he scored for them so far? 2 in 9. Just had a look at Nolan's record at around this point in the season when we were in the Championship, 5 in 9 for us. The 9th game was when he scored a hat trick against Ipswich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Those quotes are like a look into the past from on here, very interesting reading. He managed to turn it around here, of course, but he was shocking in those first months after signing in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Sounds exactly like his time here, except he scored for us. He didn't have a 5 yr contract behind him when he was with us. Having said that I still think he'll do ok for West Ham over the season. His job is just to be a fat midfielder who turns up in the right areas to score goals. If any manager can get him to do that in the championship surely it has to be Big Sam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I'd like to see our Championship side against theirs. I'd argue Nolan benefited from having better strikers to play behind with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I'd love to see Nolan vs Tiote and Cabaye. He'd never get a touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Those quotes are like a look into the past from on here, very interesting reading. He managed to turn it around here, of course, but he was shocking in those first months after signing in particular. I try to forget his first six months here tbh, he (and the rest of the team, tbf) was so fucking bad then. Even when he didn't score for us last season, he wasn't anywhere near as bad as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 shifting Nolan is probably the most impressive thing Pardew's done so far. most unimaginative managers would stick with someone who offers proven, dependable and consistent qualities, and it's a massive risk to shift such a player and get an untested bloke in to replace him. yet Best and Ba seem to replaced his goals and the team's spirit has survived. Nolan's the kind of player middling managers stick with though thick and thin, long after fans have turned on them, what one might call a "proper player" if you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Another point about Nolan at West Ham. I don't think he will ever be as effective over there, as Sam only plays one striker up front, and so it is more difficult for Nolan to ghost in late, and unmarked. However, they don't have the luxury of a Tiote, and so can't play Nolan in a two man midfield, with two strikers in the team. Not a good situation for them at all. Just further emphasizes how clueless fat Sam is in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 shifting Nolan is probably the most impressive thing Pardew's done so far. most unimaginative managers would stick with someone who offers proven, dependable and consistent qualities, and it's a massive risk to shift such a player and get an untested bloke in to replace him. yet Best and Ba seem to replaced his goals and the team's spirit has survived. Nolan's the kind of player middling managers stick with though thick and thin, long after fans have turned on them, what one might call a "proper player" if you will. You talk as if Pardew actually had a say in this sale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 shifting Nolan is probably the most impressive thing Pardew's done so far. most unimaginative managers would stick with someone who offers proven, dependable and consistent qualities, and it's a massive risk to shift such a player and get an untested bloke in to replace him. yet Best and Ba seem to replaced his goals and the team's spirit has survived. Nolan's the kind of player middling managers stick with though thick and thin, long after fans have turned on them, what one might call a "proper player" if you will. You talk as if Pardew actually had a say in this sale I honestly reckon Pardew actively encouraged the removal of Nolan for somebody more dynamic. I know there's others on here who suspected he was never a fan months earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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