Benwell Lad Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Without trying to sound too much like Disco I wish we had more Argies. The two we've got are both fantastic professionals, with great attitudes and excellent footballers. You can't really go wrong with people like Colo and Jonas. Top,top professionals. And we're lucky to have quite a few others in the club too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Hope Saylor and the Ameobis host a 'Geordie day', with stotties and bottles of brown ale and stuff. Probably at the end of the season like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 El Galgo - The Greyhound :lol: Not sure why I found it so funny, but it's a class nickname. Does alright for nicknames like. Spiderhound it is then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Gutierrez is the dogs bollocks like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Without trying to sound too much like Disco I wish we had more Argies. The two we've got are both fantastic professionals, with great attitudes and excellent footballers. You can't really go wrong with people like Colo and Jonas. Although we've struck lucky with our two there is a boat load more talent over there it's just having the nous to spot the ones that can adapt physically and mentally. Technique isn't an issue in the slightest, I'd still be wary of buying straight from the Primera like although there are bargains to be had and having our two to help any newcomers to settle in would surely help. Tevez suffers a bit from where that he's come from a very poor background and has attached himself to some leech like advisors, note how Mascherano's career has taken off since he settled down, much like a lot of the street kid Brazillians who "make it." Saying that for every Argie that comes to Europe and excels there is probably one who comes and fails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 EXCLUSIVE: Slap-up dinners have taken Newcastle from famine to feast says Gutierrez Jonas Gutierrez is recalling his first traumatic season at Newcastle that ended in relegation. “Sometimes we wouldn’t see a team mate for weeks if they were injured," he says. "We were not together all the time, or getting to know each other. “Not many of us ate together either...” Fast forward three years to Alan Pardew’s revitalised Toon, and Gutierrez tells of a lunchtime feast that has just been devoured at the club’s training ground. Click here to find out more! Pardew’s squad held an Argentina Day, and delicacies from the country were served up by club chef Liz Hornsby. The week before, they had France Day with the players who hail from there. Gutierrez says: “We had Empanadas (pastry nibbles with different fillings), Asado (the Argentine way of grilling meat), crepes, different sauces. We (Gutierrez and countryman and club captain Fabricio Coloccini) talked to the team about our culture and our food. “It was fantastic - the only thing missing was the red wine. Everyone understood our food culture after that. It was fun.” The winger nicknamed El Galgo - the greyhound - at former club Velez Sarsfield because of his running style tells the story to illustrate the behind-the-scenes dynamics fuelling Newcastle’s 11-match unbeaten start to the season. It will be Argentina day again at the Etihad Stadium on Saturday, when Gutierrez and Coloccini take on Manchester City and their World Cup team-mates Sergio Aguero - “a giant on the pitch, quiet but funny off it” says Gutierrez - and Pablo Zabaleta. Gutierrez adds: “For us to go this long unbeaten was unexpected. Manchester City too are unbeaten, so that makes it a special game. “All the people are now asking, 'What has gone right at Newcastle?'! That is refreshing to hear after what I first experienced. “The group is so friendly. We have good relationships. On the pitch all the players work hard for each other. We think like a collective, we don’t think about ourselves - we help each other. ”The club in the last few years has gone through so many things. We learned from those bad years. “This year we have Colo (Coloccini) as the captain, doing a great job, pulling people together. He is a man who only speaks when it is necessary. "No matter who the player is, if something needs to be said, he will say it. He has carried on the good work of Kevin Nolan, who was a good captain. “Colo has worked on the new players to help them, that is also important too. Being captain has helped his confidence too.” It is a far cry from Gutierrez's nightmare debut Newcastle season in 2008-09, after which only the intervention of Diego Maradona kept him on Tyneside. He said: “It was a decent group of lads. But when you have small differences in the squad, when you don’t get the results, they turn into big ones. “I have had Keegan, Chris Hughton, Joe Kinnear, Chris again, Alan Shearer, Hughton again and then Alan Pardew. Six changes. But in the last two years it has been Chris and then Alan, so we’re more stable. It is better than having five managers in a year!” It would have been easier to leave, but he revealed: “We had just been relegated and it was a year from the World Cup and I was in the Argentina squad. “He [Maradona] told me, 'Jonas, it is OK. As long as you are playing I am happy and I will pick you.' It was a massive relief. “He could have told me to play in a first division, a top league. Diego Maradona helped me stay here and put the sadness of our relegation right. It has been enjoyable turn it around.” Gutierrez, who played at played right-back in Argentina’s successful group matches in last year's World Cup, describes his experiences in South Africa as crazy. “Even though we didn’t win, we had 20,000 waiting for us at Buenos Aires. We could not get out the airport. A bus journey that [usually] takes five minutes took two hours. “When you see the crazy fans at Newcastle, it is easy to deal with!” He laughs when reminded of Gary Neville raving about his recent performance at Stoke, which included relentless running and defensive tracking-back. He adds: “I know that sometimes people assume things and say, 'Ah, he is from abroad, and a winger, he must not do much work.' But my style is suited to the Premier League. I always said this.” Just like his mate Aguero, he says. The City hitman was been a revelation so far since his summer move from Atletico Madrid, and Jonas says Aguero takes being Maradona’s son in law in his stride. “He is a very quiet, funny guy," he said. "Aguero can score, but if not is can be Silva, Nasri, Balotelli. “Aguero is a huge star. He is married to Maradona’s daughter and has their son. He takes all that very normal. He laughs about what people say. “Everyone is saying that little boy will have some great genetics in him - Maradona and Aguero! “People asked me at Newcastle how well Aguero will do. I said, 'Very well, immediately.' He is a fantastic player. He is explosive, small and really strong. When he is one versus one, he is difficult to stop.” Just like Gutierrez and Newcastle have been so far this season. Love the bit in bold. Michael *cough* cunt *cough* Owen. *cough* wanker!*cough* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I guess Owen and Nicky Butt in particual are meant here. If the team had traveled back from an away game, those two would have gone with Owen's chopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I guess Owen and Nicky Butt in particual are meant here. If the team had traveled back from an away game, those two would have gone with Owen's chopper. Didn't Owen used to leach lifts off Nicky Butt too and from training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Can't remember tbh. But I really think that - looking back now - those two were never ever part of the squad. Criminal that they were captain & vice-captain, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Without trying to sound too much like Disco I wish we had more Argies. The two we've got are both fantastic professionals, with great attitudes and excellent footballers. You can't really go wrong with people like Colo and Jonas. Although we've struck lucky with our two there is a boat load more talent over there it's just having the nous to spot the ones that can adapt physically and mentally. Technique isn't an issue in the slightest, I'd still be wary of buying straight from the Primera like although there are bargains to be had and having our two to help any newcomers to settle in would surely help. Tevez suffers a bit from where that he's come from a very poor background and has attached himself to some leech like advisors, note how Mascherano's career has taken off since he settled down, much like a lot of the street kid Brazillians who "make it." Saying that for every Argie that comes to Europe and excels there is probably one who comes and fails. You'd like to think that despite everything Carr has done, we're now looking to build on this to create an extensive scouting network worldwide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I'm with Disco, Argentina is a potential goldmine of talent. It would be interesting to see how Facundo Ferreyra would do in the PL, a big, physical striker with an eye for goal and with time on his side as well. Mind you Stracqualursi hasn't exactly set the world alight since Everton loaned him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 How's the Stracq Attack doing at Merseyside Blue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I have lots of time and love for Jonas. Such an honest and down to earth individual Also great to hear about what's happening behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 How's the Stracq Attack doing at Merseyside Blue? Missed a sitter in the league cup is all I can remember. Saying that last season in the Primera was very much his breakthrough season. Without trying to sound too much like Disco I wish we had more Argies. The two we've got are both fantastic professionals, with great attitudes and excellent footballers. You can't really go wrong with people like Colo and Jonas. Although we've struck lucky with our two there is a boat load more talent over there it's just having the nous to spot the ones that can adapt physically and mentally. Technique isn't an issue in the slightest, I'd still be wary of buying straight from the Primera like although there are bargains to be had and having our two to help any newcomers to settle in would surely help. Tevez suffers a bit from where that he's come from a very poor background and has attached himself to some leech like advisors, note how Mascherano's career has taken off since he settled down, much like a lot of the street kid Brazillians who "make it." Saying that for every Argie that comes to Europe and excels there is probably one who comes and fails. You'd like to think that despite everything Carr has done, we're now looking to build on this to create an extensive scouting network worldwide. You'd like to think so, good thing with Argentina (out of the South American countries) and to a lesser extent Uruguay is that a large number of the players don't require work permits either due to ancestory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 and for the ones that do require wps couldn't we loan them out like Arsenal do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 elgalgojonas jonas gutierrez My heart and my soul will be the fuel to carry my body when my limbs are to weary. Great speech Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 JONAS GUTIERREZ admits it feels like an age since he made his Newcastle United debut at Old Trafford. However, after sticking with the Magpies through thick and thin, he feels the current Toon team CAN go there and pick up a famous victory tomorrow. The Argentine international believes United are in the mood to beat any team. The flying winger, now one of the Newcastle’s established stars, says the occasion is one to be enjoyed after getting through some tough away days in the Championship. Gutierrez told the Chronicle: “We go into every game feeling we can win it – against anybody. “It is good to have that feeling. It means you can go to the big stadiums and play well and try to get something. “If you look at our squad, you can see we can do it. “That is good for the team and we are confident.” Gutierrez has described the season so far as his best period since signing for the Magpies from Real Mallorca in 2008 with Newcastle riding high in the top four. He added: “This has been my best time at the club and during my career here. “It was hard at first because we had a lot of changes and then we got relegated. “Then we had a year in the Championship and last year we tried to grow up together back in the Premier League. “Now we are going well in the Premier League and we are improving year by year. “We are in a good position.” Gutierrez, of course, burst on to the scene in the Premier League with a wonderful performance for Kevin Keegan’s side in 2008 in what would be one of just a handful of games for the South American under the Toon legend’s tenure. Looking back, he said: “It seems a long time ago. “However, it is special to play against Manchester United and it was my first game in England. “It was a good result for us. All the games are different. “This week we want to get more if we can and we are confident of that. “We want to take something positive out of the game.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elliottman Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I love Jonas, always have, but he needs to remember he is an attacker. We all love him for what he does going back, but last few games we havent seen him in the opposition half too much. Lets getting him pushing up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I love Jonas, always have, but he needs to remember he is an attacker. We all love him for what he does going back, but last few games we havent seen him in the opposition half too much. Lets getting him pushing up. That's not really his fault though, he's obviously been told to protect Ryan Taylor - especially against the good teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I love Jonas, always have, but he needs to remember he is an attacker. We all love him for what he does going back, but last few games we havent seen him in the opposition half too much. Lets getting him pushing up. That's not really his fault though, he's obviously been told to protect Ryan Taylor - especially against the good teams. Of course. But against Everton there was need for him to sit back for such long periods, although I think he was pretty fucked that day. And City, didnt see him get out of his own half much. We've pretty much played without a left midfielder the last 3 games. Got us 6 points of course, but just hope it doesnt become a permanant fixture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I love Jonas, always have, but he needs to remember he is an attacker. We all love him for what he does going back, but last few games we havent seen him in the opposition half too much. Lets getting him pushing up. That's not really his fault though, he's obviously been told to protect Ryan Taylor - especially against the good teams. Of course. But against Everton there was need for him to sit back for such long periods, although I think he was pretty fucked that day. And City, didnt see him get out of his own half much. We've pretty much played without a left midfielder the last 3 games. Got us 6 points of course, but just hope it doesnt become a permanant fixture. Aye, I know what you mean, I want to see Jonas getting forward much more as well. Might not happen against Man Utd and Chelsea mind. Guess it will be easier when we finally face facts and drop Raylor for Santon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I love Jonas, always have, but he needs to remember he is an attacker. We all love him for what he does going back, but last few games we havent seen him in the opposition half too much. Lets getting him pushing up. That's not really his fault though, he's obviously been told to protect Ryan Taylor - especially against the good teams. Of course. But against Everton there was need for him to sit back for such long periods, although I think he was pretty f***ed that day. And City, didnt see him get out of his own half much. We've pretty much played without a left midfielder the last 3 games. Got us 6 points of course, but just hope it doesnt become a permanant fixture. Aye, I know what you mean, I want to see Jonas getting forward much more as well. Might not happen against Man Utd and Chelsea mind. Guess it will be easier when we finally face facts and drop Raylor for Santon. Yeah, I was going to say that actually. If Raylor needs protected so much in every game, then really.... he shouldnt be in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Him not attacking much against Man city was more to do with Richards just being a solid player id imagine. Their constant possession enabled him to get fowards over the half way line so he had to be covered constantly, then his strength is hard to deal with. Hes like a bigger more directly attacking version of Enrique without the passing ability, doubt many will get much down his side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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