alexf Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 He simply has to be out of the team when Hatem is fully fit. Even think it's harsh on Marv to have been dropped when Jonas keeps his place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Thought he was decent tbh. Put a shift in and was tidy enough on the ball. Aye he was fine and made a good contribution to us winning the midfield battle in the second half. No edge to his game, obviously. Him for Obertan would've been the only switch I'd have considered at any point, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I can just about get away with him being on the pitch in an away game, its the home games when he gets the nod over Marveuax that piss me off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Thought he was decent tbh. Put a shift in and was tidy enough on the ball. Offered next to nothing in an attacking sense, but you can go back to the game after his debut for evidence of the same. He's just not a goal threat. Apart from when we play Wolves. But unfortunately we got beat so it must be this lad's fault despite him playing no role in the goal and all 4 of our defenders and GK contributing to it in a negative manner. And as Yorkie said he was in the midfield that dominated the second half for large periods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 when your full back is your main attacking threat down his side it fucking says something. The only logical explanation for him constantly starting games must be that AP doesn't trust neither Santon or Debuchy defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Just seen that Liverpool article Superb stuff! As for today, he wasn't particularly shocking but I hope that's it for a while. We have to bring Hatem back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 just offers absolutely fucking nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Would be nice to get a real player on the right side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Didn't do anything wrong today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 He didn't do anything wrong today I agree and he works his bollocks off for the side but the lack of a threat down the right 2nd half from an advanced position was as clear as the day despite Debuchy's forays. The sooner HBA is up to speed and on that side the better..it should really change the dynamics of the side again for the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 He played OK today but he is playing on the right side of midfield and I saw no attack that came from him that side, it was all Debuchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Didn't do anything wrong today. Sums Jonas up since the new signings, he hasn't done anything wrong but he hasn't effected the game positively which Ben Arfa obviously will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I think Santon's defending has went to pieces since Jonas has stopped playing LW tbh. Maybe he's still needed in the 1st 11? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 He didn't do anything wrong today I agree and he works his bollocks off for the side but the lack of a threat down the right 2nd half from an advanced position was as clear as the day despite Debuchy's forays. The sooner HBA is up to speed and on that side the better..it should really change the dynamics of the side again for the better. Our best chance today came after an attack down the right hand side albeit Jonas wasn't really involved. I agree we'll be a lot more dangerous going forward with Ben Arfa back though. Looked today as though himself and Sissoko switched a fair bit in the second half as Jonas popped up a few times down the left/middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 will be perfect as a sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I think Santon's defending has went to pieces since Jonas has stopped playing LW tbh. Maybe he's still needed in the 1st 11? Not when Gouffran works more than hard enough tracking back and offers much more attacking threat as well..... We shouldn't be putting players in the team to cover for other players. Also i don't think Jonas not covering him as anything to do with it, he's just going through poor form defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 i think he has a specific role in the side which involves covering an overlapping fullback (currently on the right) and carrying the ball to our more attacking players. whether he does this brilliantly or not is hardly the point, he is in there to do this job, without it we would need to change debuchy's mindset for a start - right now he has full license to play up the pitch and we benefit from that. you cant ask ben arfa to do this, what would be the point? surely, anyone expecting this guy to make way for any attacking player will surely be disappointed? we're playing 4 3 2 1 as much as any other formation, no way jonas is part of an advanced 3 in a 4231. i'd like to see anita tried in this role, but whatever happens does anyone really expect us to play the current eleven with jonas taken out for HBA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Played 90 minutes, yet again. Incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Well we all love him and he does love the club of that i'm sure, but like a cat that's been mown down by a tractor, while it still clings to life and you want to save it. You can't, take out your killing tool and put it out of it's misery. That i'm afraid it what needs to happen to old Jonas, he is now a below par Championship level, average plodder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Pardew doesn't dare withdraw his workrate from the side. Actual fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Pardew doesn't dare withdraw his workrate from the side. Actual fact. True but Pardew needs to see that a top 6 side needs workrate and quality, i'm afraid old yella has only one. As much as i hate to say this about one of my own players, sometimes i wish he'd get a little thigh strain or calf pull. Ashamed to say that but there you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Did pretty good today , particularly the first half he was faultless but he was given alot of space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Pardew doesn't dare withdraw his workrate from the side. Actual fact. He will once Hatem's back. Guarantee it. Did well today, for me. Right decision to leave him on when we were throwing everyone forward as well. It's not conventional, but its working for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 If we had a capable cover for Hatem he wouldn't be starting fact is this is our wide options. Gouffran(Obertan) Ben Arfa(Jonas) you could argue about Marveaux but its painfully obvious Pardew doesn't see him as anything other than a AM. Once Ben Arfa comes back and we have better depth i highly doubt Jonas will be starting much. I might be extremely naive but i truly believe the reason he plays is because we have little other choice, you have to realise that our striker and winger options are f*cking dire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 If we had a capable cover for Hatem he wouldn't be starting fact is this is our wide options. Gouffran(Obertan) Ben Arfa(Jonas) you could argue about Marveaux but its painfully obvious Pardew doesn't see him as anything other than a AM. Once Ben Arfa comes back and we have better depth i highly doubt Jonas will be starting much. I might be extremely naive but i truly believe the reason he plays is because we have little other choice, you have to realise that our striker and winger options are f*cking dire. I think you're right, we don't have many other options in wide positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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