Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope he gets well soon. Thankfully, testicular cancer has pretty good survival ratio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Campbell has just tweeted about hearing about the news, it's disgusting that our players weren't made aware. Maybe Jonas didn't want people to know about it? Colo would know and would have told the rest of the players the news if Jonas wanted. You'd tell your teammates though, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm not too knowledgable on these things.. why would he have chemo months afterwards? I thought you had chemo during the testicle removal phase, so Oct-Jan time? Looks like it might have spread to his lymph nodes. "In Norwich, Jonah played some games until the calf was injured and when he would play again discovered a pain in his kidneys,in which he discovered nodes. There he returned to Argentina and chemotherapy began performing. "Luckily this game is ending," he said, adding: "This is the most difficult match of my life but as everything has an end I decided to tell my story because maybe works for other people who have cancer."." Translation isn't the best, but my friend recently had testicular cancer. It was removed, but they found it spread to his lymph nodes and he had to have chemo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm not too knowledgable on these things.. why would he have chemo months afterwards? I thought you had chemo during the testicle removal phase, so Oct-Jan time? That's my understanding too. Chemo is usually used to make the tumour smaller or slow growth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Absolutely floored by this. Love you Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Campbell has just tweeted about hearing about the news, it's disgusting that our players weren't made aware. Maybe Jonas didn't want people to know about it? Colo would know and would have told the rest of the players the news if Jonas wanted. You'd tell your teammates though, surely? Who knows... There must be a reason why they dont know. If Jonas wanted them to know, they would have known. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Dunno if it's been posted. @elgalgojonas 28m Gracias por todos los mensajes de apoyo. Mirando siempre para adelante. Thanks for all the messages. Always looking fordward. "Thanks for all the messages of support . Always looking ahead . Thanks for all the messages. Always looking forward " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hope he's alright, think he's a great guy and a great member of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The club cannot come out of this well. - He was told in October 2013 he had a tumour and had his testicle removed. - After returning following treatment in Argentina, he was told it was best to find another club. - While at Norwich, he experienced some kidney pain. - He has then had chemotherapy. - Seems to be on the mend now. http://www.goal.com/es-cl/news/4778/main/2014/09/16/5110011/jon%C3%A1s-guti%C3%A9rrez-y-su-lucha-contra-el-c%C3%A1ncer I know it's early days and some of the translations are poor, but it appears he had treatment for testicular cancer, returned and then was told to go on loan. They had to stick by him when he came back and don't appear to have. Yeah, just read the article and I can confirm that sequence of events GeordieT posted is what transpires from the article. Mean cold stuff, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Horrible news, get well soon Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yeah, just read the article and I can confirm that sequence of events GeordieT posted is what transpires from the article. Mean cold stuff, this. Can you translate this bit please: En Norwich, Jonás jugó algunos partidos hasta que se lesionó el gemelo y cuando iba a volver a jugar descubrió un dolor en sus riñones, en los que le descubrieron ganglios. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Couple of my mates on FB having a go at me because they don't see what the club has done wrong. Is it just me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Oh my... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Couple of my mates on FB having a go at me because they don't see what the club has done wrong. Is it just me? I think at the minute it isn't clear if they've done something wrong or not tbh. EDIT: Just seen VI's post, if that article is correct then it seems pretty shocking tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yeah, just read the article and I can confirm that sequence of events GeordieT posted is what transpires from the article. Mean cold stuff, this. Can you translate this bit please: En Norwich, Jonás jugó algunos partidos hasta que se lesionó el gemelo y cuando iba a volver a jugar descubrió un dolor en sus riñones, en los que le descubrieron ganglios. "In Norwich, Jonás played some games until he suffered a calf injury. When he was about to return he discovered a pain in his liver, and they found [it had spread to] his nodes." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Couple of my mates on FB having a go at me because they don't see what the club has done wrong. Is it just me? Depends. If he's found this out in the summer, the club have given him leave but not divulged to anyone why at his request then the club have done everything right. Seems to depend on the timeline really, think a few facts wouldn't go amiss, one in English as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I think I understand now, he had testicular cancer, it was removed and he went on loan to Norwich. From here he got pain in his kidneys and it turned out that the initial cancer had spread to his lymph nodes in his kidneys, which has required chemotherapy. Cheers for the info Troll. Make sense now. Looking at the basic info like that, NUFC doesn't come off in any form of good light. He had cancer and we sent him out on loan. Also he paid for the operation himself. Pretty shitty setup all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 So are people saying we should've played him because he had his testicle removed? 1. He had his testicle removed 2. He got fit and wanted to play 3. Pardew didn't have a place for him in the team 4. We sent him on loan 5. He played 6. Found out it had spread 7. Got treatment in Argentina Close? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The article says the club didn't support him during his illness, and he took care of everything by himself. It's a short sentence by the journo - not even a quote by Jonás -, so it doesn't clarify the circumstances around it (Jonás himself may have wished to do it this way). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Ah man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Also. We really are a disgusting fucking outfit like. Burn the lot of them. Who treats other people like that man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 We really need a banner for this man. Hba gets one for being a good player. Imagine the boost it could give him to show we care! No way club would not encurge this. Or if we all donate buy 1000 get well soon cards to the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The article says the club didn't support him during his illness, and he took care of everything by himself. It's a short sentence by the journo - not even a quote by Jonás -, so it doesn't clarify the circumstances around it (Jonás himself may have wished to do it this way). Wow. No words to describe how awful that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 We really need a banner for this man. Hba gets one for being a good player. Imagine the boost it could give him to show we care! No way club would not encurge this. Or if we all donate buy 1000 get well soon cards to the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 So are people saying we should've played him because he had his testicle removed? 1. He had his testicle removed 2. He got fit and wanted to play 3. Pardew wasn't allowed to play him as that would have triggered a clause in his contract meaning club had to give him a contract extension 4. We sent him on loan 5. He played 6. Found out it had spread 7. Got treatment in Argentina Close? FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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