Dave Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Just seen this. Terrible news. Hope he recovers fully. Not a good player for his last few years here but I always liked him as a bloke. Seems like a great guy. Btw regarding the club's part in this, Adam Campbell has just tweeted to say he's just heard about it too. So perhaps it just wasn't common knowledge through choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Pardew picked him for our 25 man squad only a few weeks ago. What the f*** is that about? Just box ticking really. Mm, could've been to make things seem outwardly continuing as normal, could've been to avoid any flak about his "disappearance" as it seemed at the time and cause any unnecessary bother, could've been to make him feel still part of the club while continuing his recovery, could've just been to make up numbers, there's a number of things you could read into it. None of which are as important in the grand scheme as his health, of course. Nothing else matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Campbell has just tweeted about hearing about the news, it's disgusting that our players weren't made aware. Maybe Jonas didn't want people to know about it? Colo would know and would have told the rest of the players the news if Jonas wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Pardew picked him for our 25 man squad only a few weeks ago. What the f*** is that about? Didn't he have to be though? As have in, you've got no good reason to leave him out so he has to be registered if there's space? Or have I imagined that? Had a good reason... He's still registered as a player though. And then there's no comeback from player and agent if he's fit to play and has been refused the right to work. Could he not go on holiday for 2 days to get around it? That worked for me on FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Pardew picked him for our 25 man squad only a few weeks ago. What the f*** is that about? Didn't he have to be though? As have in, you've got no good reason to leave him out so he has to be registered if there's space? Or have I imagined that? Had a good reason... He's still registered as a player though. And then there's no comeback from player and agent if he's fit to play and has been refused the right to work. Could he not go on holiday for 2 days to get around it? That worked for me on FM. Pardew is looking into something similar for the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The club cannot come out of this well. - He was told in October 2013 he had a tumour and had his testicle removed. - After returning following treatment in Argentina, he was told it was best to find another club. - While at Norwich, he experienced some kidney pain. - He has then had chemotherapy. - Seems to be on the mend now. http://www.goal.com/es-cl/news/4778/main/2014/09/16/5110011/jon%C3%A1s-guti%C3%A9rrez-y-su-lucha-contra-el-c%C3%A1ncer I know it's early days and some of the translations are poor, but it appears he had treatment for testicular cancer, returned and then was told to go on loan. They had to stick by him when he came back and don't appear to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Bit strange that Campbell didn't know. Wonder what the club have been saying when players have been asking of his whereabouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The club cannot come out of this well. - He was told in October 2013 he had a tumour and had his testicle removed. - After returning following treatment in Argentina, he was told it was best to find another club. - While at Norwich, he experienced some kidney pain. - He has then had chemotherapy. - Seems to be on the mend now. http://www.goal.com/es-cl/news/4778/main/2014/09/16/5110011/jon%C3%A1s-guti%C3%A9rrez-y-su-lucha-contra-el-c%C3%A1ncer I know it's early days and some of the translations are poor, but it appears he had treatment for testicular cancer, returned and then was told to go on loan. They had to stick by him when he came back and don't appear to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm not too knowledgable on these things.. why would he have chemo months afterwards? I thought you had chemo during the testicle removal phase, so Oct-Jan time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://canchallena.lanacion.com.ar/m1/1727744&usg=ALkJrhgFTRJBaDqfCfN5rPRbW_eNaVbuAw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Really rocked by that photo. Get well soon Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I hope he gets well soon. Thankfully, testicular cancer has pretty good survival ratio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Campbell has just tweeted about hearing about the news, it's disgusting that our players weren't made aware. Maybe Jonas didn't want people to know about it? Colo would know and would have told the rest of the players the news if Jonas wanted. You'd tell your teammates though, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm not too knowledgable on these things.. why would he have chemo months afterwards? I thought you had chemo during the testicle removal phase, so Oct-Jan time? Looks like it might have spread to his lymph nodes. "In Norwich, Jonah played some games until the calf was injured and when he would play again discovered a pain in his kidneys,in which he discovered nodes. There he returned to Argentina and chemotherapy began performing. "Luckily this game is ending," he said, adding: "This is the most difficult match of my life but as everything has an end I decided to tell my story because maybe works for other people who have cancer."." Translation isn't the best, but my friend recently had testicular cancer. It was removed, but they found it spread to his lymph nodes and he had to have chemo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm not too knowledgable on these things.. why would he have chemo months afterwards? I thought you had chemo during the testicle removal phase, so Oct-Jan time? That's my understanding too. Chemo is usually used to make the tumour smaller or slow growth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Absolutely floored by this. Love you Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Campbell has just tweeted about hearing about the news, it's disgusting that our players weren't made aware. Maybe Jonas didn't want people to know about it? Colo would know and would have told the rest of the players the news if Jonas wanted. You'd tell your teammates though, surely? Who knows... There must be a reason why they dont know. If Jonas wanted them to know, they would have known. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Dunno if it's been posted. @elgalgojonas 28m Gracias por todos los mensajes de apoyo. Mirando siempre para adelante. Thanks for all the messages. Always looking fordward. "Thanks for all the messages of support . Always looking ahead . Thanks for all the messages. Always looking forward " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hope he's alright, think he's a great guy and a great member of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The club cannot come out of this well. - He was told in October 2013 he had a tumour and had his testicle removed. - After returning following treatment in Argentina, he was told it was best to find another club. - While at Norwich, he experienced some kidney pain. - He has then had chemotherapy. - Seems to be on the mend now. http://www.goal.com/es-cl/news/4778/main/2014/09/16/5110011/jon%C3%A1s-guti%C3%A9rrez-y-su-lucha-contra-el-c%C3%A1ncer I know it's early days and some of the translations are poor, but it appears he had treatment for testicular cancer, returned and then was told to go on loan. They had to stick by him when he came back and don't appear to have. Yeah, just read the article and I can confirm that sequence of events GeordieT posted is what transpires from the article. Mean cold stuff, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Horrible news, get well soon Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yeah, just read the article and I can confirm that sequence of events GeordieT posted is what transpires from the article. Mean cold stuff, this. Can you translate this bit please: En Norwich, Jonás jugó algunos partidos hasta que se lesionó el gemelo y cuando iba a volver a jugar descubrió un dolor en sus riñones, en los que le descubrieron ganglios. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Couple of my mates on FB having a go at me because they don't see what the club has done wrong. Is it just me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Oh my... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Couple of my mates on FB having a go at me because they don't see what the club has done wrong. Is it just me? I think at the minute it isn't clear if they've done something wrong or not tbh. EDIT: Just seen VI's post, if that article is correct then it seems pretty shocking tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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