jdckelly Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I disagree with almost every single point made in that article. The Europa League isn't any more or less broken then before. You can talk about format all you want to, but the problems with that tournament will persist as long as monetary incentive is low in comparison to the league for clubs in higher tier leagues. When you factor in the fact that second tier teams in top leagues and top teams in the lower leagues generally have smaller squad than those of the CL behemoths, this is what you get as a result. A knockout may be more interesting, but surely less matches would mean less prize money, less money in gates, and less TV money for participating, all of which would exacerbate the original issues. The author is quick to dismiss the likes of Venezuela and Scotland, but the truth is that there are definitely 40 teams in the world capable of contributing to a competitive World Cup. This isn't cricket either, it is one of the biggest events mankind has produced. I doubt interest will wane in any significant manner. The 24 team Euro is stupid because 24 teams is simply a poor number for a tournament of this style. In fact, anything where we are comparing third place teams group by group is going to be tedious and a waste of time. I would propose a 20 team Euro, with a pre-group stage, knockout round, but this idea never seems to stick with anyone other than myself. the problem with the Europa League change isn't that it was any better or worse before but that it did nothing to improve it or make it more attractive or create its own identity, now its simply the losers cup for those sides who fail in the champions league. And as it stands there hasn't been a truly good world cup in the last 20 years at least while in comparison the EUROS is a fantastic tournament as it was. Now they're making it worse letting in more shit teams you think Ireland were bad last EURO's wait til 8 more of the same or even lower standard show up. Same deal with the World Cup letting in more sides will do nothing to improve the tournament and just make it more tedious and drawn out with ultimately less interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 WC is just so high stakes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I disagree with almost every single point made in that article. The Europa League isn't any more or less broken then before. You can talk about format all you want to, but the problems with that tournament will persist as long as monetary incentive is low in comparison to the league for clubs in higher tier leagues. When you factor in the fact that second tier teams in top leagues and top teams in the lower leagues generally have smaller squad than those of the CL behemoths, this is what you get as a result. A knockout may be more interesting, but surely less matches would mean less prize money, less money in gates, and less TV money for participating, all of which would exacerbate the original issues. The author is quick to dismiss the likes of Venezuela and Scotland, but the truth is that there are definitely 40 teams in the world capable of contributing to a competitive World Cup. This isn't cricket either, it is one of the biggest events mankind has produced. I doubt interest will wane in any significant manner. The 24 team Euro is stupid because 24 teams is simply a poor number for a tournament of this style. In fact, anything where we are comparing third place teams group by group is going to be tedious and a waste of time. I would propose a 20 team Euro, with a pre-group stage, knockout round, but this idea never seems to stick with anyone other than myself. Have to disagree with you about the Europa League, Baba. It's more broken than it was when it was the UEFA. Bottom line - what do you want it to be? Since the Champions League is not a league of champions (and has never been, since the end of the European Cup), then there is theoretically no need for any second european cup trophy. The also-rans still qualify for the CL, in the bigger leagues at least. If you really do want a trophy for those who just miss out - fifth place and cup winners in the big leagues, winners of the Moldovan league - then just a straight knockout (two-legged) trophy will do. Like the old UEFA Cup. I couldn't give a fuck if it generated no money at all, it would at least be more fun than the current slog. And for fucking fuck's sake, don't let the CL failures in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig-NUFC Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Sepp Blatter: Qatar World Cup in 2022 could be shared by Iran and UAE http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sepp-blatter-qatar-world-cup-in-2022-could-be-shared-by-iran-and-uae-8930196.html This guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 soon it'll be "qatar world cup doesn't even have to be in qatar at all" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I disagree with almost every single point made in that article. The Europa League isn't any more or less broken then before. You can talk about format all you want to, but the problems with that tournament will persist as long as monetary incentive is low in comparison to the league for clubs in higher tier leagues. When you factor in the fact that second tier teams in top leagues and top teams in the lower leagues generally have smaller squad than those of the CL behemoths, this is what you get as a result. A knockout may be more interesting, but surely less matches would mean less prize money, less money in gates, and less TV money for participating, all of which would exacerbate the original issues. The author is quick to dismiss the likes of Venezuela and Scotland, but the truth is that there are definitely 40 teams in the world capable of contributing to a competitive World Cup. This isn't cricket either, it is one of the biggest events mankind has produced. I doubt interest will wane in any significant manner. The 24 team Euro is stupid because 24 teams is simply a poor number for a tournament of this style. In fact, anything where we are comparing third place teams group by group is going to be tedious and a waste of time. I would propose a 20 team Euro, with a pre-group stage, knockout round, but this idea never seems to stick with anyone other than myself. Have to disagree with you about the Europa League, Baba. It's more broken than it was when it was the UEFA. Bottom line - what do you want it to be? Since the Champions League is not a league of champions (and has never been, since the end of the European Cup), then there is theoretically no need for any second european cup trophy. The also-rans still qualify for the CL, in the bigger leagues at least. If you really do want a trophy for those who just miss out - fifth place and cup winners in the big leagues, winners of the Moldovan league - then just a straight knockout (two-legged) trophy will do. Like the old UEFA Cup. I couldn't give a f*** if it generated no money at all, it would at least be more fun than the current slog. And for f***ing f***'s sake, don't let the CL failures in. Totally agree The old European cup format is a genuine eye watering concept these days. As is the old UEFA cup. I fucking hate football now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Sepp Blatter: Qatar World Cup in 2022 could be shared by Iran and UAE http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sepp-blatter-qatar-world-cup-in-2022-could-be-shared-by-iran-and-uae-8930196.html This guy. you know these sort of questions like "are they actually capable of hosting the tournament?" and "is it safe to host in the time the world cup is held and by which every bid is assessed" are usually handled before you give the tournament to somewhere that happens to have a shit load of cash you want to get your hands on you corrupt bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 said it before, will say it again, how fucking hard would it be for leading federations like England, Germany, Spain etc. to get together and decide they're just not having it? tell FIFA they'll not participate unless it's moved to another country or they manage to sort out how to play games in the heat safely fuck FIFA, it's about time they were brought down to earth...this seems the perfect opportunity, no-one seems to care however Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Sepp Blatter: Qatar World Cup in 2022 could be shared by Iran and UAE http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/sepp-blatter-qatar-world-cup-in-2022-could-be-shared-by-iran-and-uae-8930196.html This guy. It's probable that other obscenely rich countries are also lobbying FIFA to let them join the party as as solution for the Qatar problem. Solve corruption with more corruption. Makes perfect sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/qatar-designed-a-stadium-shaped-like-a-vagina-for-the-2022-w http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr02/16/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-32545-1384628769-1.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Ugh, dammit. I made that vagina stadium comment days ago but I posted in the WC 2014 thread. Rats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Only eight years off tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 "If I could turn back time..." - Cher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Didn't even occur to me to check in that thread if I'd been giggsed to the punch tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I think you're off the hook. You can't be held up for a public Giggsing when they couldn't be bothered to post it in the correct thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 http://www.starburstmagazine.com/images/311012/flight_of_the_navigator_review.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The football World Cup will not be played in Qatar during the summer in 2022, Fifa secretary general Jerome Valcke has said. The tournament is now likely to be played during the winter months, said Valcke. "The dates for the World Cup (in Qatar) will not be June to July," he told Radio France. "To be honest, I think it will be held between November 15 and January 15 at the latest. "If you play between November 15 and the end of December that's the time when the weather conditions are best, when you can play in temperatures equivalent to a warm spring season in Europe, averaging 25 degrees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 There's not been one good thing happen about this Qatar World Cup, since it was announced. Fair enough this is better than having it in the height of their summer, but it still buggers up basically every league, and the African Nations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Will it be in 2021 to 2022 or 2022 to 2023? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Will it be in 2021 to 2022 or 2022 to 2023? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Fucking shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I refuse to care about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Good work dickwads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Was this not discussed before they were awarded the World Cup? absolute joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 still beyond me why the european federations would stand for it, FIFA are fuck all but a set of corrupt shitehawks - seems a perfectly good opportunity to break away and leave them for dead to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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