Mike Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Imagine Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedyan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Plenty of jokes how it would actually benefit the national team if these "masters" of the game would be banned. At least there are finally some youngsters who may benefit. Some of the names on that list are not to be missed in a big game, to put it mildly. The epic midweek performance by that lot, who I like just about as much, as you adore Sunderland, a decent proof of that Following the complete embarrassment with the Winter Olympics, considering that nobody in position of power and authority even got fired (at least not as of today), would not surprise me one bit if we become the first ever nation to actually host the big thing and not participate. Paving the way for Qatar or something Fortunately, I did not even try to obtain the tickets for the national team matches, so cannae be arsed to even worry about it. Too much sick sh!t going on all over the world now, it's only a game and all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 FIFA to hold press conference regarding 34 Russian players apparently involved in the state doping programme. If they get banned from their own tournament Yeah, imagine that conversation. Hai guys, you know that tournament you bribed the shit out of us to get? Weeellll I've got some bad news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedyan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Russian sportswear manufacturer Bosco are supposedly replacing Nike as the official supplier of IOC. Couldn't make it up Now some kindergarten reporters have found out that men in positions of power and influence get tickets without any queue. Imagine that. Never happened at any other FIFA tournament, presumably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 England playing Costa Rica as warmup. Playing it at Elland Road to get them used to Soviet style facilities too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Given the talk in the Lascelles thread, what starting 11 would people play as things stand come the 18th June? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Butland (no one is making it their own shirt mind) Walker Rose Stones Cahill Dier Wilshere Lingard Alli Rashford Kane Probably missed some obvious wingers but had a mind blank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Butland (no one is making it their own shirt mind) Walker Rose Stones Cahill Dier Wilshere Lingard Alli Rashford Kane Probably missed some obvious wingers but had a mind blank. Sterling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Aye him. Probably for Rashford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Rose isn't playing much either is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Butland (no one is making it their own shirt mind) Walker Rose Stones Cahill Dier Wilshere Lingard Alli Rashford Kane Probably missed some obvious wingers but had a mind blank. Sterling Aye. Probably one of the only definite starters for me. The rest are all shrugtastic. Walker Alli Sterling Kane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Butland (no one is making it their own shirt mind) Walker Rose Stones Cahill Dier Wilshere Lingard Alli Rashford Kane Probably missed some obvious wingers but had a mind blank. Sterling Aye. Probably one of the only definite starters for me. The rest are all shrugtastic. Walker Alli Sterling Kane If he can recover properly, a front 4 of Lallana, Alli and Sterling just behind Kane. Could be pretty threatening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Butland / Mackem Walker - Stones - Cahill - Bertrand Dier - Wilshere Sterling - Alli - Lallana Kane If Lallana is knacked then probably Rashford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Pickford Stones - Jones - Cahill Walker - Dier - Wilshere - Bertrand Sterling - Kane - Alli Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Really hope he's on the plane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Really hope he's on the plane. That's kind of football these days though isn't it, people like Lascelles who are honest and have worked their knackers off to improve but he doesn't play for a top team so he'll be overlooked. Players at top clubs in the same positions who've failed time after time will be picked regardless. Modern football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Really hope he's on the plane. That's kind of football these days though isn't it, people like Lascelles who are honest and have worked their knackers off to improve but he doesn't play for a top team so he'll be overlooked. Players at top clubs in the same positions who've failed time after time will be picked regardless. Modern football. I feel like that’s always been the case though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Really hope he's on the plane. That's kind of football these days though isn't it, people like Lascelles who are honest and have worked their knackers off to improve but he doesn't play for a top team so he'll be overlooked. Players at top clubs in the same positions who've failed time after time will be picked regardless. Modern football. I feel like that’s always been the case though. I'm not sure it was too the same degree before, too much at stake now, no one willing to take chances due to what's at stake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Other factors at stake though - the concentration of top players at a handful of clubs, increased number of foreign players coupled with the stockpiling of young players. I don’t think the fundamental attitudes of England coaches have changed all that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 There’s no way Lascelles can go to the World Cup when we have Phil Jones who plays for Man Yanited, despite how utterly crap he is. Impressive that Maguire has been called up and probably certain to go, despite having a very average/crap season. Just goes to show how much media hype has an effect, he’s living off the hype from last season and that matters much more than Lascelles playing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbemba Youre A Womble Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Players outside the top six that have gone to last three tournaments.. 2016 - Heaton, Bertrand, Forster, Vardy 2014 - Forster, Lallana, Foster, Jagielka, Baines 2012 - Butland, Jagielka, Green, Baines (Martin Kelly went ) The best players of any nationality will always naturally elevate themselves to the top clubs. When you combine that with English players not going abroad for whatever reason, you'll always going to see a the same clubs make up the bulk of a national side. Obviously there are going to be exceptions, but I'd say English players playing outside the top clubs aren't actually that talented at all. There is a huge amount of total garbage playing regularly in the PL, and a lot of players that despite many seasons playing in the PL have never got near to a call up. If you look at Spainish national squad, whilst being hugely competitive, they've still been able to draw plenty of players from sides outside their big clubs. Likewise with Germany. Maybe, and hopefully it's changing now - but it's got to be a case of English clubs producing a comparatively low level of footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Players outside the top six that have gone to last three tournaments.. 2016 - Heaton, Bertrand, Forster, Vardy 2014 - Forster, Lallana, Foster, Jagielka, Baines 2012 - Butland, Jagielka, Green, Baines (Martin Kelly went ) The best players of any nationality will always naturally elevate themselves to the top clubs. When you combine that with English players not going abroad for whatever reason, you'll always going to see a the same clubs make up the bulk of a national side. Obviously there are going to be exceptions, but I'd say English players playing outside the top clubs aren't actually that talented at all. There is a huge amount of total garbage playing regularly in the PL, and a lot of players that despite many seasons playing in the PL have never got near to a call up. If you look at Spainish national squad, whilst being hugely competitive, they've still been able to draw plenty of players from sides outside their big clubs. Likewise with Germany. Maybe, and hopefully it's changing now - but it's got to be a case of English clubs producing a comparatively low level of footballer. Your examples prove shite. Keepers don't count for a start because big clubs rarely play English keepers these days, so in the last 12 years 9 players outside of the top clubs got a seat on the plane if I'm reading that right? Proving my point if anything. EDIT: apologies I thought you were arguing a different point when I glanced at the text. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Wow, lots of love for Wilshere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Arial Won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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