TRon Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 So who do we give credit too for signing players then? Your mate Llambias. Clearly his knowledge of football is under-rated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 So who do we give credit too for signing players then? If they're good: Graham Carr/Dennis Wise If they're bad: Kevin Keegan/Chris Hughton Think you've got that backwards for most on here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 So who do we give credit too for signing players then? If they're good: Graham Carr/Dennis Wise If they're bad: Kevin Keegan/Chris Hughton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 So who do we give credit too for signing players then? If they're good: Graham Carr/Dennis Wise If they're bad: Kevin Keegan/Chris Hughton So Gervinho would be a Carr signing and Pratley would be a Pardew signing. I'm following now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 So who do we give credit too for signing players then? Your mate Llambias. Clearly his knowledge of football is under-rated. Good old Dezza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 i realise this an out there type statement and yes i've been drinking but if it's true we have bids in for those france based players mentioned all over, could it be because we have a bit money to spend and have stopped the massive year on year losses and maybe, just maybe we'd have done it a few year back had we not been losing money on a quite large scale ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 i realise this an out there type statement and yes i've been drinking but if it's true we have bids in for those france based players mentioned all over, could it be because we have a bit money to spend and have stopped the massive year on year losses and maybe, just maybe we'd have done it a few year back had we not been losing money on a quite large scale ? It's been argued for some time by Ashley "apologists" but until the signings are rubber stamped we won't know if it's true. I know in the season we were relegated Llambias talked about having money to spend if we stayed up but we didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Pardew says training-ground revamp will help cause by Mark Douglas, Sunday Sun IT is Alan Pardew’s quiet revolution. It won’t earn him headlines, nor the acclaim of the Gallowgate. And there will be barely a ripple of excitement among a Tyneside public understandably more interested in the identity of their next No 9 or whys and wherefores of Joey Barton’s contract negotiations. But the subtle changes ordered by Pardew at Newcastle United’s Benton training base – along with new codes of personal discipline and expectation that will be put in place – represent a profound and important shift in the manager’s approach next season. They are small improvements, but players notice these things. When United’s stars return on July 4 they will come back to relaid pitches boasting thicker grass along with undersoil heating to combat the harsh Geordie winter, and even new nets to ensure training balls aren’t flying into adjacent fields. They will also be advised of a new disciplinary code with harsh penalties for poor time-keeping. There will be an edict on when the training-ground kitchen stops serving, with a request to eat together at lunchtime. Little things, but important. Important to changing the perception of the club, for one, and to encouraging the players that they are at a progressive club moving in the right direction. Get that right, Pardew says, and it will eventually translate to the pitch. “What we want is a gradual increasing of the bar at Newcastle United,” said Pardew. “If you don’t do that then you’ve got mediocrity, and in a lot of ways that is a problem – mediocrity is a problem. “I think when you’re a footballer and you’ve had one or two years at a club where it’s not changed at the training ground, it will concern you. “It would concern me – I would be thinking ‘Why haven’t we invested in the training ground? Why isn’t it better? Why isn’t it more luxurious? Why isn’t it more geared towards a professional football club that is at this level?’ “I want them to come in and think ‘Wow, that looks good – that looks better’. Source Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Good to hear Pardew is working on those details. The last time the players had to eat together ended in relegation, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/05/29/ashley-needs-to-be-inspired-to-back-us-pardew-79310-28782190/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Beating Villa and the mackems inspired him to sack the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Dissension in NUFC management. Pardew wants people on the edge of their seats/off their seats, whereas Carver wants bums on seats: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news//tm_headline=carver-new-signings-will-put-bums-on-seats%26method=full%26objectid=28800101%26siteid=72703-name_page.html Pardew wants players banging on the door, Carvel probably wants an open door policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Dissension in NUFC management. Pardew wants people on the edge of their seats/off their seats, whereas Carver wants bums on seats: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news//tm_headline=carver-new-signings-will-put-bums-on-seats%26method=full%26objectid=28800101%26siteid=72703-name_page.html Pardew wants players banging on the door, Carvel probably wants an open door policy. And Carver's been replaced by a younger, cheaper, near-namesake coach, too? Will this merry-go-round never end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Quite behind Pardew at the moment, seems to be saying and doing all the right things, and looking at the right sort of players. Really pleased that he's aware we need more pace and is looking to bring players in who can beat a man and excite the crowd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Can he suddenly become a good manager and do well here though? He is doing fine at the minute, but he has never achieved anything in management, so can he suddenly become good here and do well, or will he just go onto fail? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Can he suddenly become a good manager and do well here though? He is doing fine at the minute, but he has never achieved anything in management, so can he suddenly become good here and do well, or will he just go onto fail? Suddenly become a good manager? I think you could argue he's always been a pretty good manager. He's mellowed, and become more experienced, and now has a chance to prove his quality at a club like ours. Let's now see if he can become a great manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Most fans I've spoken to rate Pardew TBH, I think he's quite well respected in football in general. Only his trouser snake has affected his reputation I reckon. Anyway, if he keeps going how he is now I'll be happy, tentative signs of good progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Can he suddenly become a good manager and do well here though? He is doing fine at the minute, but he has never achieved anything in management, so can he suddenly become good here and do well, or will he just go onto fail? By that logic, there must always be a point where a manager was not good? And suddenly they become good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Can he suddenly become a good manager and do well here though? He is doing fine at the minute, but he has never achieved anything in management, so can he suddenly become good here and do well, or will he just go onto fail? Suddenly become a good manager? I think you could argue he's always been a pretty good manager. He's mellowed, and become more experienced, and now has a chance to prove his quality at a club like ours. Let's now see if he can become a great manager. I'd agree with that, work he did with West Ham was impressive mostly and always a manager I liked, thought his sacking from southampton was harsh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Pardew's real test will come next season if we get these signings through the door. We saw with Souness having quality players at your disposal isn't much use if you don't know how to put a team together. That said I like the way Pardew is quite thorough in team preparation and he's getting the type of players I would want him to. I think he will do well personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 That's why I find people saying "Pardew is the new Souness!" are just morons. Souness had a complete disregard and blatant lack of interest in tactics and systems. Whatever you think of how Pardew sets his teams up, and the tactical tinkering he sometimes does, you can't accuse him of being not bothered about formations and systems etc. I don't get why Souness seemed to think that players working hard and players organized into a certain system were mutually exclusive, they clearly aren't and clearly will work best in tandem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 The thing I'm optimistic over with Pardew is that he actually likes to attack if he can, doesn't seem to just want to play 'percentage' football. I feel if he's got the players at his disposal, he will let us attack, with good organisation, rather than play the most dire of dire football. Aimed at both Souness and Fat Sam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 It really looks as if Pardew is going to change the way we play next season with substantially different personnel. Will be interesting to see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 If your attitude is positive and your approach is positive you've always got a fighting chance of being a success at anything. That's the biggest thing Pardew has in his favour for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 The thing I'm optimistic over with Pardew is that he actually likes to attack if he can, doesn't seem to just want to play 'percentage' football. I feel if he's got the players at his disposal, he will let us attack, with good organisation, rather than play the most dire of dire football. Aimed at both Souness and Fat Sam. And Ian's too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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