Guest BooBoo Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 10/10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 No Tiote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Desole mon ami! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Guthrie looks disturbing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 What a talented bloke! Fantastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Speaking on his progress on the transfer front, Pardew told the Chronicle: “We’re all looking forward to getting back to work next Monday. “The squad is looking healthy and, hopefully, there are still one or two to come. “They won’t be in before July 4, but we hope to get one in before the tour of America – and there could well be one after the tour.” Pretty disturbing in my eyes that its only 2 players coming in total if you take Depardieus quote as gospel as imho we need atleast 3 quality players minimum to show an improvement on last season as our bench was piss poor and i believe Jose will go on deadline day like Carroll did with no chance of an adequete replacement being signed in time (Naylor not proven at our level). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Speaking on his progress on the transfer front, Pardew told the Chronicle: “We’re all looking forward to getting back to work next Monday. “The squad is looking healthy and, hopefully, there are still one or two to come. “They won’t be in before July 4, but we hope to get one in before the tour of America – and there could well be one after the tour.” Pretty disturbing in my eyes that its only 2 players coming in total if you take Depardieus quote as gospel as imho we need atleast 3 quality players minimum to show an improvement on last season as our bench was p*ss poor and i believe Jose will go on deadline day like Carroll did with no chance of an adequete replacement being signed in time (Naylor not proven at our level). I've adopted a very patient approach to our transfers, but 2 is entirely unacceptable especially since we've not really spend the 35M we got for Carroll and the high likelihood of Jose leaving. Minimum 4 I would say with 2 strikers, one left back and another utility squad player perhaps as cover for Tiote (who will miss quite a few games) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 He must mean two new players besides first team replacements, surely? If we lose Enrique and Barton and bring two in it's not good enough. We'll do very well to replace those with better players who quickly settle into the team. Looking at our forward line, we obviously need another striker because if we're pinning our hopes on a striker with a sketchy injury history we could be seeing a lot of Lovenkrands and Ameobi again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Yeah I'm finding Pardew's recent comments about numbers worrying too. There's still time to bring in faces but as others have said it's not good enough to simply cover the positions of those you've sold. Pardew also talks about having Ben Arfa and Gosling as new signings but I'm sorry both are coming back from serious, serious injuries ffs! Gosling's barely kicked a ball in two years or whatever!!! Someone's description of Pardew being a spin doctor is fairly accurate, he says a lot of the right things but if you break it down there's cracks everywhere. I'm still waiting to be convinced in this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Pardew: “Andy Carroll’s future was one of the items at the top of my agenda. He needs to stay. I have had reassurances about that, 100% he is staying here.... I guarantee while I am here he will be here.” “In terms of myself, I never really had any contact about this job or any other job.” (On nicking "Houghton"s job) “We have to have a big-club mentality and hold on to our best player.” “I want Joey to stay... and that goes for all the other players, like Andy. They are not going. We want them to stay here, and that is something that we’re working towards.” “In this window, Andy Carroll is definitely going nowhere.” “There’s a no sale on Andy Carroll, which is probably the biggest and best news we’re going to have during the window.” “I have said all along that Andy Carroll will not be leaving this football club, 100%.” “They can put together what they like, he's not for sale.“ “It’s ridiculous. How many times do I need to say he’s not for sale? Well here it is one more time, he’s not for sale.” Pardew: "For the Newcastle fan, that is the most important message I can give today, that all that money will be used." Keegan: “It is not going to be reinvested is it, I think that’s obvious. As a Newcastle fan, if Carroll is the only one you are going to lose you have to be pretty thankful." (2 free transfers plus a re-investment of the 5m from selling our captain and top scorer later...) Pardew: "Things are definitely moving on now and we expect to be busier between now and the start of the season. We are working very hard on one or two players and we hope to announce something soon." “Hopefully, there are still one or two to come.” “They won’t be in before July 4, but we hope to get one in before the tour of America – and there could well be one after the tour.” (and one of those is presumably the £1m guy from Swansea). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I think we all remember him saying Carroll wouldn't be sold tbh. A £35 million offer and a transfer request can be a game changer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I think we all remember him saying Carroll wouldn't be sold tbh. A £35 million offer and a transfer request can be a game changer. It's the re-investment angle I'm now focussing on. I wouldn't believe Pardew saying every day that he's got plenty money to reinvest until I actually saw it, but it's noticeable that he's now saying much smaller scale stuff. Why have you got Lambias as your avatar picture, btw? Is he a hero of yours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I think we all remember him saying Carroll wouldn't be sold tbh. A £35 million offer and a transfer request can be a game changer. It's the re-investment angle I'm now focussing on. I wouldn't believe Pardew saying every day that he's got plenty money to reinvest until I actually saw it, but it's noticeable that he's now saying much smaller scale stuff. Why have you got Lambias as your avatar picture, btw? Is he a hero of yours? So you're focussing on the re-investment angle but decided to post the multiple quotes from Pardew where he said Carroll wouldn't be sold before he put a transfer request in and Liverpool offered a ridiculous amount of money. Nice. Didn't Pardew also come out shortly after and cleared up his original quotes stating the fee would cover fee's and wages? I interpret his comments to mean that 2 more will come in being a left back and a striker which will take our squad to it's 25 man capacity, of course I'd expect any outgoings to be replaced with upgrades where possible on a 1 in 1 out basis after that. Derek's not a bad bloke. Why have you got Beardsley as your avatar? Not only did the bloke walk out on the club to play for Liverpool but sold out to the Cockney Mafia this time around. Scandalous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Fans can appreciate a 35 million sale of their star player IF it's spent on bringing in several players. It's all the usual cloack and daggers stuff in that nobody actually knows what the board wants because they never speak to the fans. If we go into the season with a squad lacking depth like last year having not spent considerably on new players then it just confirms the misgivings everyone has about Ashley/Llambias and Pardew being a puppet. Those quotes above are good, Pardew should learn to keep his mouth shut more and would probably whince if someone read those back to him. This is the season to judge him though when he's had the time assemble "his" squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 The former Charlton boss suggested that shorter-term contracts might represent the future for Premier League players. “I think, like a lot of players, that yearly term contracts in the Premier League are going to be the norm,” said Pardew. Try telling your pals upstairs that win they sling 5 year contracts at everything then . My thoughts on Pardew are changing from cautious optimism to one of distrust at each passing day and The summerof69 is correct in bringing in these Pardew quotes imho as it is now showing the evidence that he is a mouth piece for the board . I think we all remember him saying Carroll wouldn't be sold tbh. A £35 million offer and a transfer request can be a game changer. Tell me when that 35 million will start getting used as promised as a small portion has been used on players wages and fees etc but not transfer outlay (Nolan paid for Cabaye and his wages i would believe). If Barton and Enrique go and that is possible then atleast 5 players coming in minimum as our bench was shite last season in the majority of cases . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 So obvious that Pardew has ZERO influence on players coming or going. He'll work with what he is given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 So obvious that Pardew has ZERO influence on players coming or going. He'll work with what he is given. Not obvious to me exactly, but I'm inclined to believe the same. Or at least his options are filtered to such an extent that his options aren't really his own (which is true to most managers of non-Man City/Chelsea clubs, but more so here). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Does he have to spend the whole £35 million? As long as good investments and improvements to the squad have been made I don't really care how much is spent. At the moment we are not much of an improvement on last season. I think on paper Cabaye looks and upgrade on Nolan, Marveaux adds a bit of numbers to the wide players and is possible a better option than Routledge with Ba as long as he stays fit being better than any of the strikers we ended the season with. Its a gamble to count on Ben Arfa and Gosling as new players given their injuries last season but if we can get them playing anywhere near their best then it will mean an improvement to our team and squad. If we can keep Barton & Enrique and bring in Taylor, Zoggy and Sturridge I would be more than happy with that. ( I know that Zoggy and Sturridge are unlikely at the moment, but you couldn't rule out the possibility)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 So obvious that Pardew has ZERO influence on players coming or going. He'll work with what he is given. Not obvious to me exactly, but I'm inclined to believe the same. Or at least his options are filtered to such an extent that his options aren't really his own (which is true to most managers of non-Man City/Chelsea clubs, but more so here). It's just the way modern management works TBH, you have to work with what the scouts can find and what the board will sanction. I'm sure Pardew understands and accepts this situation, I don't think it's anything to be worried about at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I think we all remember him saying Carroll wouldn't be sold tbh. A £35 million offer and a transfer request can be a game changer. It's the re-investment angle I'm now focussing on. I wouldn't believe Pardew saying every day that he's got plenty money to reinvest until I actually saw it, but it's noticeable that he's now saying much smaller scale stuff. Why have you got Lambias as your avatar picture, btw? Is he a hero of yours? So you're focussing on the re-investment angle but decided to post the multiple quotes from Pardew where he said Carroll wouldn't be sold before he put a transfer request in and Liverpool offered a ridiculous amount of money. Nice. Didn't Pardew also come out shortly after and cleared up his original quotes stating the fee would cover fee's and wages? I interpret his comments to mean that 2 more will come in being a left back and a striker which will take our squad to it's 25 man capacity, of course I'd expect any outgoings to be replaced with upgrades where possible on a 1 in 1 out basis after that. Derek's not a bad bloke. Why have you got Beardsley as your avatar? Not only did the bloke walk out on the club to play for Liverpool but sold out to the Cockney Mafia this time around. Scandalous. Derek's not a bad bloke. Based on what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 So you're focussing on the re-investment angle but decided to post the multiple quotes from Pardew where he said Carroll wouldn't be sold before he put a transfer request in and Liverpool offered a ridiculous amount of money. Nice. I'm looking at the re-investment angle and worrying that it is coming to lie in the same context as Pardew's past utterances, yes. Derek's not a bad bloke. Why have you got Beardsley as your avatar? Not only did the bloke walk out on the club to play for Liverpool but sold out to the Cockney Mafia this time around. Scandalous. Heh. Beardsley was sold at a time when the board were wanting the cash in and didn't want to pay him anywhere near his worth. Of all the local England players that left (Waddle, Beardsley, Gascoigne, Carroll) he was the one who I feel was least agitating to be away. But that's by the by - he's my avatar because he's the best player I've seen in the flesh. And he did it for us. And over two different spells. I was asking about your avatar only out of interest. I could though do with hearing some positive stuff about Llambias as my impressions of him are far from that. I'll give you a and pretend to get the joke, as you can't seriously be trying to put him up against Beardsley in a Toon heroes play-off, and your use of "Cockney Mafia" suggests you're not really a "Derek" devotee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 So obvious that Pardew has ZERO influence on players coming or going. He'll work with what he is given. Not obvious to me exactly, but I'm inclined to believe the same. Or at least his options are filtered to such an extent that his options aren't really his own (which is true to most managers of non-Man City/Chelsea clubs, but more so here). It's just the way modern management works TBH, you have to work with what the scouts can find and what the board will sanction. I'm sure Pardew understands and accepts this situation, I don't think it's anything to be worried about at all. That's just too sensible to fly in Football Fan world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 So obvious that Pardew has ZERO influence on players coming or going. He'll work with what he is given. It's not so obvious but it has become apparent especially after the Nolan sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 “They won’t be in before July 4, but we hope to get one in before the tour of America – and there could well be one after the tour.” My guess is Taylor is the first and N'Zogbia is the second. Obviously things can change, but I think that's what we're looking at right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 “They won’t be in before July 4, but we hope to get one in before the tour of America – and there could well be one after the tour.” My guess is Taylor is the first and N'Zogbia is the second. Obviously things can change, but I think that's what we're looking at right now. Still desperately need a striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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