OzzieMandias Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Ah, the ZX Spectrum. How well I remember the 20-minute wait as you loaded up some game from a tape cassette. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 don't know whether to laugh or cry.... Pardew on talksport this morning telling them about his shock at the bombshell that there is another african cup of nations in 2013. deadly serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 don't know whether to laugh or cry.... Pardew on talksport this morning telling them about his shock at the bombshell that there is another african cup of nations in 2013. deadly serious. Tbf half of this forum are the same regardless of how many times its brought up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From Happy Face on TT - Premier league points won only (top flight), no cups.... 61.54% - Kevin Keegan (143/78/30/35) 53.19% - Sir Bobby Robson (188/83/51/54) 50.00% - Alan Pardew (46/18/15/13) 47.44% - Glenn Roeder (52/21/11/20) 45.24% - Kenny Dalglish (56/19/19/18) 41.27% - Sam Allardyce (21/7/5/9) 39.58% - Chris Hughton (16/5/4/7) 39.39% - Graeme Souness (55/16/17/23) 36.84% - Kevin Keegan 2 (19/5/6/8) 36.59% - Ruud Gullit (41/11/12/18) 34.72% - Joe Kinnear (24/5/10/9) 20.83% - Alan Shearer (8/1/2/5) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From Happy Face on TT - Premier league points won only (top flight), no cups.... 61.54% - Kevin Keegan (143/78/30/35) 53.19% - Sir Bobby Robson (188/83/51/54) 50.00% - Alan Pardew (46/18/15/13) 47.44% - Glenn Roeder (52/21/11/20) 45.24% - Kenny Dalglish (56/19/19/18) 41.27% - Sam Allardyce (21/7/5/9) 39.58% - Chris Hughton (16/5/4/7) 39.39% - Graeme Souness (55/16/17/23) 36.84% - Kevin Keegan 2 (19/5/6/8) 36.59% - Ruud Gullit (41/11/12/18) 34.72% - Joe Kinnear (24/5/10/9) 20.83% - Alan Shearer (8/1/2/5) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From Happy Face on TT - Premier league points won only (top flight), no cups.... 61.54% - Kevin Keegan (143/78/30/35) 53.19% - Sir Bobby Robson (188/83/51/54) 50.00% - Alan Pardew (46/18/15/13) 47.44% - Glenn Roeder (52/21/11/20) 45.24% - Kenny Dalglish (56/19/19/18) 41.27% - Sam Allardyce (21/7/5/9) 39.58% - Chris Hughton (16/5/4/7) 39.39% - Graeme Souness (55/16/17/23) 36.84% - Kevin Keegan 2 (19/5/6/8) 36.59% - Ruud Gullit (41/11/12/18) 34.72% - Joe Kinnear (24/5/10/9) 20.83% - Alan Shearer (8/1/2/5) Much more accurate than the win %age method. Pardew's record is good but probably even more so considering what he was working with 2nd half of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yep, very impressive figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From Happy Face on TT - Premier league points won only (top flight), no cups.... 61.54% - Kevin Keegan (143/78/30/35) 53.19% - Sir Bobby Robson (188/83/51/54) 50.00% - Alan Pardew (46/18/15/13) 47.44% - Glenn Roeder (52/21/11/20) 45.24% - Kenny Dalglish (56/19/19/18) 41.27% - Sam Allardyce (21/7/5/9) 39.58% - Chris Hughton (16/5/4/7) 39.39% - Graeme Souness (55/16/17/23) 36.84% - Kevin Keegan 2 (19/5/6/8) 36.59% - Ruud Gullit (41/11/12/18) 34.72% - Joe Kinnear (24/5/10/9) 20.83% - Alan Shearer (8/1/2/5) Much more accurate than the win %age method. Pardew's record is good but probably even more so considering what he was working with 2nd half of last season. What's that supposed to mean? Pardew has done extremely well but let's not pretend he took over a shite side like most replacements do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From Happy Face on TT - Premier league points won only (top flight), no cups.... 61.54% - Kevin Keegan (143/78/30/35) 53.19% - Sir Bobby Robson (188/83/51/54) 50.00% - Alan Pardew (46/18/15/13) 47.44% - Glenn Roeder (52/21/11/20) 45.24% - Kenny Dalglish (56/19/19/18) 41.27% - Sam Allardyce (21/7/5/9) 39.58% - Chris Hughton (16/5/4/7) 39.39% - Graeme Souness (55/16/17/23) 36.84% - Kevin Keegan 2 (19/5/6/8) 36.59% - Ruud Gullit (41/11/12/18) 34.72% - Joe Kinnear (24/5/10/9) 20.83% - Alan Shearer (8/1/2/5) Much more accurate than the win %age method. Pardew's record is good but probably even more so considering what he was working with 2nd half of last season. What's that supposed to mean? Pardew has done extremely well but let's not pretend he took over a shite side like most replacements do. Lets not pretend that after we lost HBA and Carroll, he didn't have his first half a season with the worst strike force to grace the books of any modern day NUFC related football historian. /he's done well, end of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From Happy Face on TT - Premier league points won only (top flight), no cups.... 61.54% - Kevin Keegan (143/78/30/35) 53.19% - Sir Bobby Robson (188/83/51/54) 50.00% - Alan Pardew (46/18/15/13) 47.44% - Glenn Roeder (52/21/11/20) 45.24% - Kenny Dalglish (56/19/19/18) 41.27% - Sam Allardyce (21/7/5/9) 39.58% - Chris Hughton (16/5/4/7) 39.39% - Graeme Souness (55/16/17/23) 36.84% - Kevin Keegan 2 (19/5/6/8) 36.59% - Ruud Gullit (41/11/12/18) 34.72% - Joe Kinnear (24/5/10/9) 20.83% - Alan Shearer (8/1/2/5) Much more accurate than the win %age method. Pardew's record is good but probably even more so considering what he was working with 2nd half of last season. What's that supposed to mean? Pardew has done extremely well but let's not pretend he took over a s**** side like most replacements do. Not so much the "paper" squad but the injuries we suffered left him down to the bare bones on occasions but he still managed to pull off impressive wins at crucial times to keep us clear of the relegation places. Further to his credit is that it was achieved against background of initial hostility with some fans almost willing him to fail. Not only has he proved himself to be a very capable manager but at times he's had to show real balls, which is no bad thing in a manager's make up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Ben Arfa was already long gone. He's done very well, I just don't see the need to make out he had a major job on turning us around. We were 12th in the league, and after his first game in charge (a game upon which the players and he himself openly admitted he had very little influence) we were 8th. The other stuff is obviously fair comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From Happy Face on TT - Premier league points won only (top flight), no cups.... 61.54% - Kevin Keegan (143/78/30/35) 53.19% - Sir Bobby Robson (188/83/51/54) 50.00% - Alan Pardew (46/18/15/13) 47.44% - Glenn Roeder (52/21/11/20) 45.24% - Kenny Dalglish (56/19/19/18) 41.27% - Sam Allardyce (21/7/5/9) 39.58% - Chris Hughton (16/5/4/7) 39.39% - Graeme Souness (55/16/17/23) 36.84% - Kevin Keegan 2 (19/5/6/8) 36.59% - Ruud Gullit (41/11/12/18) 34.72% - Joe Kinnear (24/5/10/9) 20.83% - Alan Shearer (8/1/2/5) Impressive stuff, all credit to Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Bobby To be fair those stats are pretty close together, Robson is only 6% better than Dalglish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Would not have thought that Big Sam was that 'good'. Had him behind Hughton and even Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Somebody should do a formula that also takes into account squad strength, quality of the rest of the league, backing in the transfer market etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Somebody should do a formula that also takes into account squad strength, quality of the rest of the league, backing in the transfer market etc. I genuinely want to do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Tamwar likes maths, get him on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Somebody should do a formula that also takes into account squad strength, quality of the rest of the league, backing in the transfer market etc. I genuinely want to do this. How about points per net spend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Don't forget to factor in press coverage (positive or negative). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Don't forget to factor in press coverage (positive or negative). Now we're talking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Somebody should do a formula that also takes into account squad strength, quality of the rest of the league, backing in the transfer market etc. I genuinely want to do this. How about points per net spend? Doesn't take into account strength of squad inherited... Would have to factor in something like average minimum expected position, or how that has changed over time, like when Keegan arrived it was effectively about 40th, but when he left it was top 2/3. Robson would be something like 12th to 4th. Pardew 17th to 7th or something along those lines. Souness went from maybe 6th to 13th or whatever, Dalglish 4th to 10th. Or take into account actual finishing positions and how they changed over time. Combine this with amount spent on players which should be separate from net spend but both should be included as both show different things, or even things like average cost of first team player bought. I've gone too far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Goals scored/conceded per £ spent. Average attendance change with the manager. Decibel level with that manager. Mentions in national press relative to "rivals". Number of shirts sold per month during the manager's reign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Keep going Ali...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Average finishing position of each player that left the club. Average change in food and drink bought in the ground during the manager's reign. Job satisfaction levels in Newcastle Upon Tyne and the surrounding areas during the manager's reign. % of signings that played over 25 first team league games for the club. Number of foreign players bought that still live in the area after retiring. Percentage of players who went into management after retiring. Number of mentions in big foreign media outlets such as Marca and L'Equipe. Average number of points finished behind/ahead in the highest "dreamt" position, so last season for Pardew it would be maybe 8th, this season 4th. Under Keegan it would be 1st in 1996 but in 1994 it would be something like 6th. Robson 01/02 would be 6th or so and 03/04 might be 3rd/4th. Average percentage of people wearing replica shirts whilst walking round Newcastle and the surrounding areas during the manager's reign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 From Happy Face on TT - Premier league points won only (top flight), no cups.... 61.54% - Kevin Keegan (143/78/30/35) 53.19% - Sir Bobby Robson (188/83/51/54) 50.00% - Alan Pardew (46/18/15/13) 47.44% - Glenn Roeder (52/21/11/20) 45.24% - Kenny Dalglish (56/19/19/18) 41.27% - Sam Allardyce (21/7/5/9) 39.58% - Chris Hughton (16/5/4/7) 39.39% - Graeme Souness (55/16/17/23) 36.84% - Kevin Keegan 2 (19/5/6/8) 36.59% - Ruud Gullit (41/11/12/18) 34.72% - Joe Kinnear (24/5/10/9) 20.83% - Alan Shearer (8/1/2/5) Interesting that. Our current form this season under Pardew is nearly on track with Keegans best reign then if you work it out. This season so far we've won 59% of available points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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