Guest michaelfoster Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 on MOTD 2 now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell Boi Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Hope he rapes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,89739.50.html Predictions thread. It's quite interesting in a dull sort of way. Even more dull is compiling the results... And here it is: http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4729/capturekev.png My maths might be proper bollocks, but I get the average vote as 10.47th from 149 predictions before we'd kicked a ball this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Normal distribution (ish) curve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Normal distribution (ish) curve Can't be arsed. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I see he's at MOTD..already preparing for life after us.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 If we are constantly revising expectations - at what point would Pardew ever get praise for what he has achieved? I don't quite follow how preseason expectations were, for the sake of argument, 8th-11th, we are currently in 6th (3 points off 4th) and now people are suggesting that actually we have a squad (which we clearly don't) that should be in 6th by virtue of its quality and that therefore Pardew is, at best, matching expectations. It doesn't make sense! At what point is any of the success attributed to Pardew and as part of a wider point, at what time is any success attributed to any manager? Or by virtue of its current league position, is each team achieving what it should be because expectations have been revised? In summary, what I am trying to say is that it seems as if people have had an initial opinion, seen that we are now doing better than that original opinion, and decided that that is definitve proof that actually our squad is better than originally predicted and we are merely at par. And that this improvement is solely down to the innate ability of the players in the squad and has been achieved in spite of our manager? When he is clearly getting the best out of the players he has at his disposal. League position and results aren't necessarily the best judge of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 It is not a bad indicator to be fair. I think usually the best indicator... Certainly better than some subjective judgement about where a team 'should' be finishing, based on a fairly woolly assessment of the merits of the players of every squad in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Even if we ignore Ben Arfa, I'm not sure we're getting the best out of the likes of Cisse, Ba, Cabaye and arguably Santon. Dat long ball game man, we've turned into Stoke ever since we lost that game to Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Was pretty good on MOTD2 but no repeat of his infamous 'raped him' comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Had a little dig at Ashley for not signing older players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Had a little dig at Ashley for not signing older players. What did he say? Missed it tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Had a little dig at Ashley for not signing older players. What did he say? Missed it tonight. "Chairmen don't like to sign older players - that's the problem we're having *Pards chuckle*" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Wonder which older players he would be interested in signing. I'm happy with buying the younger players tbh, just don't like the fact that it's mainly buying them to sell them off at a much higher price a few years later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I SMELL A RIFT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 He 100% is not happy at our transfer policy.. and he is 100% after Europe spot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 yeah ok pards, blame your results on not having older players, jesus how desperate can he be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I thought "we're" = managers in general, not NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I thought "we're" = managers in general, not NUFC. but you can't have a go at the club if he meant that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 think he was talking about NUFC, but don't think he meant anything bad by it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 here's my revised take on things, pretty football aside we're 6th at the moment and assuming 7th gets us europe we have an 8 point lead over norwich the current nearest contenders for that spot (i'm not counting liverpool) we have 12 games left, only 4 of which are against teams either above us or liverpool for me how we got to this point doesn't matter, if we're not in europe next season he'll have fucked up...you can't credit the guy for early form and then let him off the hook if he can't sustain it assume we get nothing from the 4 "big team" games, that leaves him 8 games to not lose an 8 point lead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I thought "we're" = managers in general, not NUFC. Keefaz is right, folks. Pardew was talking generically about managers these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 If 7th gets us Europe which i highly doubt it will because i dont see Liverpool finishing in the top 5 but if it was then Europe is already ours as far as iam concerned...... There's no way in hell we are finishing lower than 7th the other teams are just simply not consistent enough, even if we have shit end to the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Looking ever more likely that the Fulham game really knocked his confidence. Jol adjusted and completely raped Pardew in the second half, Pardew just had no answer for it. His response seems to have been to set the team up very deep and approach the game very cautiously to try and stop it happening again. I can see his logic to some extent, Williamson is getting exposed more and more as the weeks go by, not signing anyone in January was a massive blunder. I think with Taylor back next year and better CB depth he'd be more comfortable letting Cabaye press on a bit more. I do think it's overly negative and will do more harm than good in the short term, though. Needs to at least play someone with a bit more forward threat than Ryan Taylor on the right if we are gonna essentially play with two DM's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Just going back to the point about expectations. At the beginning of the season I felt progress would have been shown with convincing top half finish. By that I mean avoiding the mid-table melee. Last season we were caugh in a cluster of sides including, Sunderland, Bolton and Fulham that could have finished anywhere from 8th and 14th, only the odd point seperated those sides. That pattern has developed again this season with the likes of Sunderland, Everton, Stoke, Fulham and West Brom battling it out for the top half. At the beginning of the season I would of been pleased to simply avoid that scrap. Expectation has undeniably changed given our position in the top seven, mine included. We've maintianed our league standing for a large majority of the season with barely a challange from anyone below, perhaps Stoke during our blip. To finish outside that top seven now would be undeniably disappointing regardless of any previous expectations. For me anything on top of that would be an absolute bonus, the very fact we're punching our weight with the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool is an achievement in itself. Despite our progress this season the three of them still have much larger squads packed with more quality, players such as Simpson, Perch and Shola would get no where near those sides, we still have a long way to go before we have that kind of strength in depth. I think some have lost sight of where we are as a work in progress. Yes the three aforementioned sides are having somewhat disappointing seasons but they've still pulled away with realtive ease, the only difference being we're right up there with them. For a squad containing seven or eight players of real class mixed with a lot of dross that's a cracking season. Obvisouly it isn't over yet, but if we maintian our current standing it would be a very impressive achievement, in my eyes at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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