alexthegreat Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Personally I have no problem with constructive criticism, but the abuse is just pathetic. Very prominent members of this forum have said some disgraceful things about him recently. Hopefully it stops here, but it won't. Been reading this forum more than posting over the last few years. I'd just about agree with this, although I'd go further and say that while there has been a swell of genuine constructive criticism recently, there is a small minority who have been itching to leap on the manager's back for the entire season. Heres one of them: The QPR performance was as poor as anything Allardyce, Souness or Roeder through up. Our football under Pardew has, in the main, been turgid s***. We are relying on hard work, team spirit and a reasonably settled and solid defence. We need far more to advance. Pardew may know what he needs to do but I'm not too sure he has the ability to put together such a side much less get it playing well. His substitutions and decisions from the dugout suggest that and worry me a lot. And we need some clarity, why is he a c***? He's a proven liar, dishonest and someone I'd class as a snide. He's a bull shiter in short and a bit of a c*** as a result. Just my opinion of course but hey that's how I see him, as a bit of a c***. He's f***ing useless. s*** lineup, s*** tactics, s*** subs, s*** management. Vukic for f*** sake. Its as if all the things the Hammers fan client of ours said about him is becoming true. I spat my drink out when I saw that Vukic was starting. That to me shows the man has no clear idea what team to go with and at this stage of the season, given how long he has worked with these players, that is f***ing scary. I'll hang my head on the line here and now and say we will not finish in the top 10 this season because of this clown. I hope he's replaced in jan with someone who has a clue because we have a decent core here, a core that needs direction not f***ing tinkered with and f***ed about with anal tactics. Ba is not a target man but he deployed him as one and threw the ball long time and time again. I'm not an expert but that tactic and use of Ba borders on f***ing retartded. (beat Man United 3-0 a few days after this post) Disgraceful attitude towards a manager doing a fantastic job. Can only guess what the motivation is, but I can't see what keeping up a constant stream of vitriolic hatred towards Pardew is supposed to achieve. I do remember that at the start of the season the above viewpoints weren't the isolated voices they are now. People didn't like Pardew for their own reasons, not all of them to do with results. They wrote about it on forums and in fanzines, the media picked up on it, and we were left with the ridiculous situation where the Journal and other newspapers were calling the 2nd game of the season a "must win" game for Pardew, piling the pressure on a manager who was unbeaten in 4 or 5 and just one game into a new season. I really thought that all that would have been left behind by the unbeaten run he went on after that. But theres an extremely vocal, very small minority on here who it seems will always have it in for him. I'm not sure how they think this will help, but whenever we next have a blip they'll all be out in force regardless of the circumstances, making us all look like pricks. Good to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Tip of the iceberg, sadly. Cunt, wanker, idiot and moron spring to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 He has done things that have seemed odd to fans and attracted criticism, but he's steered us to the best of his ability and he seems to be moving us in the right direction. Expectations have shifted upwards in a way I hadn't expected as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Tip of the iceberg, sadly. c***, w*****, idiot and moron spring to mind. and we still put up with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I've tried to be as constructive as possible with my criticism. I've never once said I wanted him sacked, and was actually a staunch supporter of him, but the last couple of months have been absolutely deserving of criticism. If we see more of what we saw today for the rest of the season I can't take anything away from him, a good job becomes an extraordinary job if we're doing it playing like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 You've resorted to name-calling too, even as one of the more placid members. I just don't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Name calling? I called him a coward when he was absolutely deserving of it, that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I'm convinced you called him a wanker, like. Not that it matters much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Pardew plays down top four bid Goals from Papiss Cisse (2) and Hatem Ben Arfa enabled the Magpies to move level on points with fifth-placed Chelsea in the Premier League before Shane Long's second half consolation effort. But Pardew believes Newcastle are not well enough equipped to overhaul one of the top four. Pardew said: "Are we Champions League contenders? I don't think so. The last 10 games are the most important ones in any season and we've won the first two of those. "There are a lot of games left, a lot of points. But I don't think we've got the depth of squad to challenge for that (a Champions League place). "I get told the fans might be thinking 'this is on' - but not me." Ben Arfa, who set up Cisse's two goals, was the official man of the match and Pardew believes he is a reformed character worth a place in the France squad. He said: "There are not many players who can do what he can do and it might be a nice wild card for France to have him in the squad. "He really has knuckled down and there is a much more controlled person in his manner and the way he is around the training ground. "I can say that publicly so it registers with the French manager. "In the past in France there was some reputation that he was an 'enfant terrible' but not here. "He has been immaculate and especially this season he has really kind of focused and got his mind set in a good place." Pardew confirmed Newcastle skipper Fabricio Coloccini will miss next weekend's clash against Liverpool with a hamstring injury. http://www.football365.com/newcastle-united/7626588/Pards-plays-down-top-four-bid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Meh. I know it's not going to happen, but it's a bit of a shame for him to completely write it off. Not even a 'we'll see what happens' kind of comment. Just pure 'not going to happen'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Meh. I know it's not going to happen, but it's a bit of a shame for him to completely write it off. Not even a 'we'll see what happens' kind of comment. Just pure 'not going to happen'. Douglas on Twitter seems to think this is his "public safe view". Talking up the possibility behind-closed-doors. Sensible, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Very nice comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Best thing for him to say in public I think, as long as he's getting the players up for each game it's not a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Delighted to see we played such good stuff yesterday, I've thought this 4-3-3 might be his long term vision for a while now and it certainly is producing our best football. Agree fully that some of the criticism has been over the top and those who would like to see him sacked are off their heads, prior to yesterday our football had been very poor for a while though and he deserved some criticism for that. Looking forward to seeing us hopefully add a few quality players to the squad in the summer and hopefully producing football like this on a more consistent basis next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/dec2010/3/0/alan-pardew-827016700.jpg Marching on for Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 He's so fucking suave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 He's so f***ing suave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 He's such a sexy bastard, hopefully we will start to play football consistently as sexy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Meh. I know it's not going to happen, but it's a bit of a shame for him to completely write it off. Not even a 'we'll see what happens' kind of comment. Just pure 'not going to happen'. Douglas on Twitter seems to think this is his "public safe view". Talking up the possibility behind-closed-doors. Sensible, I think. Exactly, not like he is telling the players not to win too many in case we get there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 He did say pre-WBA that the Norwich game was just 'get the win' and that we could use the ball better against West Brom. We certainly did that, an excellent performance and the win was well defended at the end, another useful cameo from Shola. Spot on Pards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Really impressed with how we closed the game out - expected a storm after they pulled one back but it just didn't materialise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Really impressed with how we closed the game out - expected a storm after they pulled one back but it just didn't materialise. Same, the commentators didn't help with the constant talk about the 3-3 either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Got to be manager of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Re: Ian's post about commentary, I've watched the last two away games in my local with Danish commentary (because he couldn't get English, not because i'm in Denmark) and it's a much more enjoyable way to see the game. You just tune it out and enjoy the game and atmosphere without getting yourself het up over some mug talking shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Very Well done for WBA. I have been one of his vocal detractors since November, principally because of how the players were being used and certain selections of his. This was a much more positive, much more expressive way to play and it played to our strengths. Keep it up Pards, everyone wants us to succeed and most people want to succeed with you here. Just keep it positive and on the ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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