Ronaldo Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 City are on course for about 90 points, so to say he's a made right f***ing hash of it is harsh. They were absolutely robbed in the FA Cup too. Of course, he doesn't deserve it. Pardew does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Man City are reminding me terribly of our 1996 season. Unplayable before Christmas, they now are stuttering, certainly away from home and are so reliant in the excellent home results. At the minute I wouldn't put a penny on them winning on the road. Too many of their game winning players have gone off the boil. For Balotelli and Silva see Ferdinand and Ginola for us in the second half of 95/96. I think Man Utd will win it quite comfortably in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 To me the top 3 coaches P4P is Pardew, Rodgers and Lambert i would have put Redknapp but unless they sort themselves out i dont see them finishing any higher than expected. Utd and City are expected to win the league they deserve f*ck all, everyone expected Norwich and Swansea to go down and alot of people tipped us to follow suit so those 3 have overachieved the most imo. What the LMA and the Premier League actually do is another thing entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToonZA Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_Manager_of_the_Season On only 2 ocassions out of 18 was the award given to a manager who failed to win the league. Burley taking Ipswich to 5th in 2000-01 and Redknapp in 2009-10 for guiding Spurs into the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest neesy111 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_Manager_of_the_Season On only 2 ocassions out of 18 was the award given to a manager who failed to win the league. Burley taking Ipswich to 5th in 2000-01 and Redknapp in 2009-10 for guiding Spurs into the CL. Ridiculous Keegan didn't get it for 93/94 season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_Manager_of_the_Season On only 2 ocassions out of 18 was the award given to a manager who failed to win the league. Burley taking Ipswich to 5th in 2000-01 and Redknapp in 2009-10 for guiding Spurs into the CL. Ridiculous Keegan didn't get it for 93/94 season. Absolutely ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 This week has reminded me another thing I like about Pards, he rarely bemoans luck with injuries etc, tends to concentrate instead on bigging up his squad and the strengths of required replacements - could help explain how he seems to get so many decent performances out of fringe players. To be where we are despite having to regularly field committed but limited players like Perch, Raylor, Guthrie, Ameobi and Williamson is remarkable really. He pretty much the anti-Souness in this regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Two non-PL winning managers. Fucking joke. Renders the award useless tbh, like that wasn't known already anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cort Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 What were the Pardew haters saying about Sir Bobby during his first full season where a team with Solano, Shearer, Lee, Speed, Given were coasting along to 11th in the league? Shearer only played 19 games that season while his partner Cort played only 13. Not a Pardew hater btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi_D Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 This week has reminded me another thing I like about Pards, he rarely bemoans luck with injuries etc, tends to concentrate instead on bigging up his squad and the strengths of required replacements - could help explain how he seems to get so many decent performances out of fringe players. To be where we are despite having to regularly field committed but limited players like Perch, Raylor, Guthrie, Ameobi and Williamson is remarkable really. He pretty much the anti-Souness in this regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 What were the Pardew haters saying about Sir Bobby during his first full season where a team with Solano, Shearer, Lee, Speed, Given were coasting along to 11th in the league? Shearer only played 19 games that season while his partner Cort played only 13. Not a Pardew hater btw. Aye, seem to remember a long run second half of that season with Ameobi & Gallacher starting up front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Two non-PL winning managers. Fucking joke. Renders the award useless tbh, like that wasn't known already anyway. will be the same again, almost certain even if city win the title fergie will win the award for some crap like "the brave fight against the money of man city" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Apparently there's a 'Pardew out campaign' on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Apparently there's a 'Pardew out campaign' on here. Haha! Where did you get that from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It's a one man campaign like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It's a one man campaign like. About 4 actually, maybe 3 now as Deadmau seems to have died off, or at least gone back to where he came from after the weekend. FWIW I think Pardew should be given the freedom of the city for what he's done during the last 15 months or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It's a one man campaign like. About 4 actually, maybe 3 now as Deadmau seems to have died off, or at least gone back to where he came from after the weekend. FWIW I think Pardew should be given the freedom of the city for what he's done during the last 15 months or so. The main vocal detractors were HTT, Wullie, Mick, Tron, HawK, myself and a few others. Most weren't saying they wanted him out but that he needed to show signs that he could change the way we were playing as for three-four months we'd been progessively playing worse football. I don't think it's unreasonable that many were asking for changes to this and saying that if we didn't see improvements by Christmas then we'd have a case for looking for someone who could better utilise the players. WBA was a massive improvement and has renewed some of my faith in him. I think many were frustrated by the fact that what he was saying in the press didn't match up to what was happening on the pitch and felt short-sold. More of the WBA stuff and you won't find anyone complaining, HTT included Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It's a one man campaign like. About 4 actually, maybe 3 now as Deadmau seems to have died off, or at least gone back to where he came from after the weekend. FWIW I think Pardew should be given the freedom of the city for what he's done during the last 15 months or so. The main vocal detractors were HTT, Wullie, Mick, Tron, HawK, myself and a few others. Most weren't saying they wanted him out but that he needed to show signs that he could change the way we were playing as for three-four months we'd been progessively playing worse football. I don't think it's unreasonable that many were asking for changes to this and saying that if we didn't see improvements by Christmas then we'd have a case for looking for someone who could better utilise the players. WBA was a massive improvement and has renewed some of my faith in him. I think many were frustrated by the fact that what he was saying in the press didn't match up to what was happening on the pitch and felt short-sold. More of the WBA stuff and you won't find anyone complaining, HTT included Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It's a one man campaign like. About 4 actually, maybe 3 now as Deadmau seems to have died off, or at least gone back to where he came from after the weekend. FWIW I think Pardew should be given the freedom of the city for what he's done during the last 15 months or so. The main vocal detractors were HTT, Wullie, Mick, Tron, HawK, myself and a few others. Most weren't saying they wanted him out but that he needed to show signs that he could change the way we were playing as for three-four months we'd been progessively playing worse football. I don't think it's unreasonable that many were asking for changes to this and saying that if we didn't see improvements by Christmas then we'd have a case for looking for someone who could better utilise the players. WBA was a massive improvement and has renewed some of my faith in him. I think many were frustrated by the fact that what he was saying in the press didn't match up to what was happening on the pitch and felt short-sold. More of the WBA stuff and you won't find anyone complaining, HTT included Like you said there are a just hand full of Pardew detractors but a lot more, myself included, who have not enjoyed the visual spectacle of us nervously hanging on to narrow leads and stumbling across the line when we win. WBA was a great win and an excellent display in two contexts, a half of fast, accurate, attacking football and a half of watching a team made up largely of squad players fighting determinedly for the cause. Both very satisfying in different ways. However I don't think the WBA game, or any individual game for that matter, should have too much read into it, managers, football clubs and business in general needs to be judged over a longer term period, a minimum of one season for a manager I would say. In the context of what Pardew has done in the last 15 months and indeed this season so far, I think he has been excellent in all respects. Concerning the media, whereas some don't like his style, I see an intelligent diplomat who has bridged the gap between the club's ownership and the fans admirably. Being Newcastle we'll get some disappointing performances along the way and we'll get a few epics too, but overall I'm pretty happy about where we are, cautiously optimistic about our future and deliriously happy when I think back to where we were just three years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It's a one man campaign like. About 4 actually, maybe 3 now as Deadmau seems to have died off, or at least gone back to where he came from after the weekend. FWIW I think Pardew should be given the freedom of the city for what he's done during the last 15 months or so. The main vocal detractors were HTT, Wullie, Mick, Tron, HawK, myself and a few others. Most weren't saying they wanted him out but that he needed to show signs that he could change the way we were playing as for three-four months we'd been progessively playing worse football. I don't think it's unreasonable that many were asking for changes to this and saying that if we didn't see improvements by Christmas then we'd have a case for looking for someone who could better utilise the players. WBA was a massive improvement and has renewed some of my faith in him. I think many were frustrated by the fact that what he was saying in the press didn't match up to what was happening on the pitch and felt short-sold. More of the WBA stuff and you won't find anyone complaining, HTT included Like you said there are a just hand full of Pardew detractors but a lot more, myself included, who have not enjoyed the visual spectacle of us nervously hanging on to narrow leads and stumbling across the line when we win. WBA was a great win and an excellent display in two contexts, a half of fast, accurate, attacking football and a half of watching a team made up largely of squad players fighting determinedly for the cause. Both very satisfying in different ways. However I don't think the WBA game, or any individual game for that matter, should have too much read into it, managers, football clubs and business in general needs to be judged over a longer term period, a minimum of one season for a manager I would say. In the context of what Pardew has done in the last 15 months and indeed this season so far, I think he has been excellent in all respects. Concerning the media, whereas some don't like his style, I see him an intelligent diplomat who has bridged the gap between the club's ownership and the fans admirably. Being Newcastle we'll get some disappointing performances along the way and we'll get a few epics too, but overall I'm pretty happy about where we are, cautiously optimistic about our future and deliriously happy when I think back to where we were just three years ago. Absolutely spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 but overall I'm pretty happy about where we are, cautiously optimistic about our future and deliriously happy when I think back to where we were just three years ago. Agreed in regards to how far we've come. Before the season began, I thought we had the players to do well, much better than most predicted but I would never have guessed we could be here at this stage. I can only see us progressing at the moment because all the right signs are there, we just need to finish the season positively to send out a message to our players and anyone potentially joining in the summer. And in regards to bottledog, HTT only feels that way because of a conviction that Ashley/Pardew can't bring us success. If they do bring us success, then he can't be anything other than happy about where the club is, he's only out for the club's best interests as he sees them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I didn't enjoy the football either, but we still should have been refraining from the more extreme Pardew bashing IMO. We had played 2/3 of the season, you don't stay around the top 6 that long if you don't deserve it. And as for the style of football, we only had the luxury of worrying about that because the league position was so good. Doesn't matter now like, fingers crossed we keep going like against WBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I think the Pardew bashing was totally understandable tbh. Before Sunday I had real concerns as to whether he had any idea how to set the team up to make the best use of the individual players. The 4-3-3 formation is something that many here have felt would be the best for midfielders like Cabaye and a forward like Ben Arfa. More importantly we showed we can pass the ball and looked much better for it rather than the constant hoofing we've watched in many games this season. I'm sure we'll have more poor performances before the end of the season but the main thing is at least we now know what we are capable of, and hopefully this will give the players the confidence to continue knocking the ball around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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