Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'm finding it hard to be angry at Carver. He's been given a job that he should never have been given but thats comes from above. Results need to improve quickly though, all this talk of not letting the season slip away is just words. Ideally he'll stop talking about SBR at every given opportunity too, but I've got a feeling he might do alright. I don't think he'll do alright because I think he's shit, but I agree with the rest of the post. It's only his association with Pardew that seems to be bringing an excessive level of abuse. This isn't true at all like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 It's only his association with Pardew that seems to be bringing an excessive level of abuse. This is a man who's made a mess of every club he's been involved with, yet he publically insisted he deserved to manage Newcastle United because Jose Mourinho hugged him and said so. He's acted like an utter cunt for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I haven't really followed Carver's career outside of Newcastle TBF. As I said I think he's shit, but to me he's more of an old-school cone manager and coach that is in out of his depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Were you following NUFC when he said the right decision for the board was to make him manager because we only lost 2-0 against Chelsea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 "hopefully that little bit of luck we need will fall our way this weekend." learned from the best Definitely not a Pardew clone though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Steve Stone, man, it's like everyone is f***ing stupid. We've got rid of the shitty, broken treehouse and left the rubbish tree. In fact, Carver and Stone promoted is arguably more dangerous. f*** knows who Dave Watson is but he's probably a disgusting jeb too. Scouser, U18 coach, former Everton and Tranmere manager. Played for England a few times. Aye, Watson was captain at Everton for years. Cracking player and seemed a decent bloke but anyone who is complicit with the current running of NUFC becomes a cunt by default. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Were you following NUFC when he said the right decision for the board was to make him manager because we only lost 2-0 against Chelsea? Yes I was, that wasn't great. I do think he's an idiot FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 It's only his association with Pardew that seems to be bringing an excessive level of abuse. This is a man who's made a mess of every club he's been involved with, yet he publically insisted he deserved to manage Newcastle United because Jose Mourinho hugged him and said so. He's acted like an utter cunt for a while. Add these to the list. Squared up to NUFC's own fans who wanted what's best for the club and offered to fight them at the training ground, A fan took him up on the offer and naturally he wasn't there, Publicly vilified Ashley and then oh-look, he's working for Ashley and everything's fine! Told us that SBR and Gary Speed would be with him in the dugout under the guise that 'he's a Catholic' ...and that's not even getting into the fact that his average win % ratio per instance (where there are only five teams managed, and where one of them is a 100% record) is only 36.6%, his win % ratio over actual games played is 28.3% Even if you do the slightest bit of digging, you'll see that he's useless and shameless. The fact that he worked for and supported that utter cunt that managed us before him is just another massive stick to hit him with and he won't last five minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Just seems the type who'll suck any number of dicks to weasel his way onto the good side of those in power. Not that there's anything wrong with sucking a few dicks here and there amirite? Lickspittle through and through. I don't hate him, but he just seems totally pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The squaring up to the fan is the only one of those I'm really bothered about, I don't think then refusing to fight him at the training ground is a negative! I don't want him here like, just to be clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The squaring up to the fan is the only one of those I'm really bothered about, I don't think then refusing to fight him at the training ground is a negative! I don't want him here like, just to be clear. Slagging off Ashley and then working for him is not a negative? Using the names of club legends to curry favour is not a negative? Of course not showing up is a negative, in that doing it in the first place invites people to do that and that happening embarrasses him, the club and us further. He can't act that way if he didn't mean it, he shouldn't be acting that way at all. His record is absolutely atrocious as well, I'll just assume that you didn't mean that when you were saying you didn't have a problem with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Need to get rid of Carver asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The squaring up to the fan is the only one of those I'm really bothered about, I don't think then refusing to fight him at the training ground is a negative! I don't want him here like, just to be clear. Slagging off Ashley and then working for him is not a negative? Using the names of club legends to curry favour is not a negative? Of course not showing up is a negative, in that doing it in the first place invites people to do that and that happening embarrasses him, the club and us further. He can't act that way if he didn't mean it, he shouldn't be acting that way at all. His record is absolutely atrocious as well, I'll just assume that you didn't mean that when you were saying you didn't have a problem with it. Both of those first two are not ideal but understandable IMO. Meeting up with a fan at the training ground would have been absolutely mental. I don't think he's a good coach and I don't think he should be manager, just to say yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The squaring up to the fan is the only one of those I'm really bothered about, I don't think then refusing to fight him at the training ground is a negative! I don't want him here like, just to be clear. Slagging off Ashley and then working for him is not a negative? Using the names of club legends to curry favour is not a negative? Of course not showing up is a negative, in that doing it in the first place invites people to do that and that happening embarrasses him, the club and us further. He can't act that way if he didn't mean it, he shouldn't be acting that way at all. His record is absolutely atrocious as well, I'll just assume that you didn't mean that when you were saying you didn't have a problem with it. Both of those first two are not ideal but understandable IMO. Meeting up with a fan at the training ground would have been absolutely mental. I don't think he's a good coach and I don't think he should be manager, just to say yet again. Okay. As for the meeting up thing, I know it would, that's the point. Therefore he shouldn't have invited that situation onto himself and then looked like a fool regardless of what he did. The bloke's a total bellend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The squaring up to the fan is the only one of those I'm really bothered about, I don't think then refusing to fight him at the training ground is a negative! I don't want him here like, just to be clear. I don't think you've made that clear at all Ian! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 You think it's 'understandable' that an apparent fan of the club was not only willing to thrown away every shred of dignity he has in order to maintain a paycheck from some utter lunatic hell-bent on destroying us, but is now putting himself forward to manage us despite having absolutely no qualities suited for the role? I think it's the opposite of understandable personally, it's unfathomable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Ian W playing devil’s advocate for the sake of fairness, in defence of a manager he doesn’t want, is like the Undertaker walking the top rope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Ian W playing devil’s advocate for the sake of fairness, in defence of a manager he doesn’t want, is like the Undertaker walking the top rope. "You've still got it!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The squaring up to the fan is the only one of those I'm really bothered about, I don't think then refusing to fight him at the training ground is a negative! I don't want him here like, just to be clear. It wasn't just any fan he squared up to, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Aye, Ian definitely isn't a massive wum any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Ian W playing devil’s advocate for the sake of fairness, in defence of a manager he doesn’t want, is like the Undertaker walking the top rope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 You think it's 'understandable' that an apparent fan of the club was not only willing to thrown away every shred of dignity he has in order to maintain a paycheck from some utter lunatic hell-bent on destroying us, but is now putting himself forward to manage us despite having absolutely no qualities suited for the role? I think it's the opposite of understandable personally, it's unfathomable. He's being handed his dream job on a plate, it's perfectly understandable. He shouldn't be anywhere near us if we we happened to be a self-respecting outfit, but we're not. Don't have much against Carver as a person tbh. As a manager he's liable to be an absolute disgrace, but any vitriol shouldn't be heading his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 You think it's 'understandable' that an apparent fan of the club was not only willing to thrown away every shred of dignity he has in order to maintain a paycheck from some utter lunatic hell-bent on destroying us, but is now putting himself forward to manage us despite having absolutely no qualities suited for the role? I think it's the opposite of understandable personally, it's unfathomable. He's being handed his dream job on a plate, it's perfectly understandable. He shouldn't be anywhere near us if we we happened to be a self-respecting outfit, but we're not. Don't have much against Carver as a person tbh. As a manager he's liable to be an absolute disgrace, but any vitriol shouldn't be heading his way. No surprise. What he's done aside from being incompetent has been covered like. No doubt you think it's creepy to dislike a fully grown man that represents NUFC calling our own fans cunts purely for holding a banner, and offering to fight them. All on top of publically vilifying Ashley until the exact moment that he's on his payroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Steve Stone, man, it's like everyone is f***ing stupid. We've got rid of the shitty, broken treehouse and left the rubbish tree. In fact, Carver and Stone promoted is arguably more dangerous. f*** knows who Dave Watson is but he's probably a disgusting jeb too. Scouser, U18 coach, former Everton and Tranmere manager. Played for England a few times. Aye, Watson was captain at Everton for years. Cracking player and seemed a decent bloke but anyone who is complicit with the current running of NUFC becomes a c*** by default. Scored the winner against us in the '95 Cup 1/4s the year they won it. Keegan hater. Watson out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Sounds like he's been and got a book on management from the library He'll have found that in Pardew's office. It's probably been left in the exact state it was the day he left. Like a shrine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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