Yorkie Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 My passion has been somewhat revived, even though it wasn't a conscious decision by the club to remove Pardew. So if Carver gets the job, I'll be disappointed but I'm desperate to start supporting the club again. Pardew's removal does open that gate for me again, even if something as utterly shit as Carver getting the job happens. Supporting Newcastle is part of my personal identity and it's hurt to have lost some of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The Chronicle always have an agenda when it comes to our managerial appointments. They will always want someone that they think they can work with. Look at how they pushed Carver for the assistant manager in the first place. The idea of having a highly professional foreign manager who does not know who Lee Ryder is, and won't be passing on exclusive stories does not appeal to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Fucking hell...spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Wants a decision made on the job ASAP - not surprising as he knows his record is only going to get worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Just hope Carr can pick the next manager, As I think this is the only way we will appoint some one from outside the club. If not we will end up with Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Bishop's Finger, Cava, this thread is driving me to drink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 My passion has been somewhat revived, even though it wasn't a conscious decision by the club to remove Pardew. So if Carver gets the job, I'll be disappointed but I'm desperate to start supporting the club again. Pardew's removal does open that gate for me again, even if something as utterly s*** as Carver getting the job happens. Supporting Newcastle is part of my personal identity and it's hurt to have lost some of that. I'm not so sure - Carver/Stone/Woodman are no better than Pardew. If we're left with them we're just as fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 My passion has been somewhat revived, even though it wasn't a conscious decision by the club to remove Pardew. So if Carver gets the job, I'll be disappointed but I'm desperate to start supporting the club again. Pardew's removal does open that gate for me again, even if something as utterly s*** as Carver getting the job happens. Supporting Newcastle is part of my personal identity and it's hurt to have lost some of that. I'm not so sure - Carver/Stone/Woodman are no better than Pardew. If we're left with them we're just as f***ed. I'm 50/50. I really don't want them, but if we give them to the end of the season I'm willing to support them until the 40p barrier is reached. Then I'll hate on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 My passion has been somewhat revived, even though it wasn't a conscious decision by the club to remove Pardew. So if Carver gets the job, I'll be disappointed but I'm desperate to start supporting the club again. Pardew's removal does open that gate for me again, even if something as utterly s*** as Carver getting the job happens. Supporting Newcastle is part of my personal identity and it's hurt to have lost some of that. I'm not so sure - Carver/Stone/Woodman are no better than Pardew. If we're left with them we're just as fucked. They're different. That's (just barely) good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I want a change, Carver in charge till the end of the season means the season is basically dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 They wouldn't last a full season anyway, the limbo we were in under Pardew us well and truly gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Every season for his club is dead until the owner changes anyway. Now that I think about it, maybe a Carver appointment would be the impetus the fans need to really turn on Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Would Ashley care, though? He owns the club, TV money keeps rolling in, SD is plastered all over... would a few angry fans really make much of a difference? He's found a golden goose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Clinging to the hope that Ashley sells us after next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Season's dead anyway. We won't get relegated, we're out all the cups and we've just terminated the contract of our most watchable player. Would be a perfect time to introduce a new manager with new methods but we'll doubtless continue with Carver pretending he knows what 'data' is and shouting incomprehensible mung guff until we reach summer and promptly do nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/john-carver-would-mad-not-8380476 In the game against Burnley, I thought for 45 minutes we played some really good football. The physical data has since come back and Burnley overran us. We had no legs in the team. And so it begins. I mean, continues. I am speechless "I think we played well but these numbers here say we didn't so we must play more grafters." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Did Pardew take Bigfoot Woodman and the computer geek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Not yet, both still here. The data gimp sort of reminds me of Brick from Anchorman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Not yet, both still here. The data gimp sort of reminds me of Brick from Anchorman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/dAtPDY9.png I hope he actually said that. "If not get, I will sad." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hoying that on Twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 from "we was bad" to "I would mad". Grim times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/john-carver-would-mad-not-8380476 In the game against Burnley, I thought for 45 minutes we played some really good football. The physical data has since come back and Burnley overran us. We had no legs in the team. And so it begins. I mean, continues. I am speechless "I think we played well but these numbers here say we didn't so we must play more grafters." I didn't need to look at "physical data" stats whatthefuckever, I just used my eyes and watched the game and noticed they were all over us. I hate the way they rely on the data when all they need to do is open their fucking eyes. The data is useful perhaps for deep troubleshooting where something has gone wrong, however most our problems are simple ad basic organisation, tactical mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 "The analysis has come back and we definitely lost" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Data is very useful in performance analysis, but to undermine its value looking for how far people ran just defeats the point of it (in this case). Use that data for preseason ffs. In a match you look for why and when players run- that's something data can't accurately define. Of course why would we want to look at passes failed/completed, opposition crosses, our possession in defensive and attacking 1/3....f***ing dinosaur. People like JC keep the English disease rampant in the game at the top level. Possibly the saddest thing about what he said is that a lot of our fans will lap that up and think, 'Aye, he's got the passion like, making sure people proper graft man'. f*** off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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