Gash Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Hart G. Johnson - Ferdinand - Cahill - Cole Walcott - Wilshere - Gerrard - A. Johnson Carroll - Bent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I know he'll still get picked but Gerrard looks a million miles away from an international midfielder. Change his name and shirt and no-one would put him in an England XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 We've got a good bunch of players, but we lost our way when Rooney lost his way. He added that essential spark and it's gone, hopefully just temporarily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I know he'll still get picked but Gerrard looks a million miles away from an international midfielder. Change his name and shirt and no-one would put him in an England XI. Exactly, copy+paste that for another 4-5 of our 'starters' and it's the tip of the iceberg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Have to agree with this - the performance in SA last summer was possibly the worst I have seen in a World Cup - I was too young to remember the defeat by the USA in 1950.. The best side in recent years was SBRs 1990 team....and that is nearly 21 years ago although probably the best performance in that time was beating the Germans 5-1 away in 2001. The 1990 side had the likes of Waddle, Beardsley, Gazza, Bryan Robson, Shilton and Lineker - all of whom were streets better than their modern equivalents ; the 1970 team that defended the WC in Mexico were very unfortunate - man for man, perhaps better than the 66 side that won it. Terry Cooper, the Leeds full back was at least as good at overlapping as Ashley Cole today, and the 70 side had to play their most crucial group game against Brazil in Guadalajara at mid-day when temps were in the low 40s. Brazil were without doubt the best team I have seen but England only lost 0-1 and should have equalized through Jeff Astle near the end. Bobby Moore was out of this world in that game and the side kept possession far better than the current one. The loss to the Germans in the QF should never have happened, and probably wouldn't have done if Ramsey had left Bobby Charlton on the field ; when he came off, Beckenbauer was able to come forward and it changed the game. Banks was suspected of being food-poisoned as he suddenly fell ill just before the game, and I doubt he would have conceded at least 2 of the goals. Don't think modern players care about the National side and many of them lack talent. They get their money too easily and there are other social factors ; even Brazil are not producing the players they used to and they have a pop of 160m..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Totally agree. Hated the last couple of World Cups as an Englishman but can find enjoyment in the failure of a lot of the players in the 'team'. Absolutely gutless, I loathe them. There needs to be a massive overall of the contents of the squad. An England team should be more than the sum of it's parts, not less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Hart (though I'm still thoroughly unconvinced by him) Richards Ferdinand Terry Cole Wilshere Gerrard Walcott Rooney A Johnson Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 `James Milner - needs to be played in the middle` should be nowhere near an england team, hes a squad player with no flair or brains. Hes a good prem workhorse, but very pedestrian and brings little to table at international lvl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I've seen far worse England teams than this one,Revie picked worse and so did SBR early in his tenure,with no marks like Steve Foster,John Gregory and Steve Hunt being selected.Taylor's team had some shite too,Thomas,Palmer, Sinton and Andy Gray.This current team should really be about rebuilding and Rooney and Ashley Cole are the only ones from the old guard who should be playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Have to agree with this - the performance in SA last summer was possibly the worst I have seen in a World Cup - I was too young to remember the defeat by the USA in 1950.. The best side in recent years was SBRs 1990 team....and that is nearly 21 years ago although probably the best performance in that time was beating the Germans 5-1 away in 2001. The 1990 side had the likes of Waddle, Beardsley, Gazza, Bryan Robson, Shilton and Lineker - all of whom were streets better than their modern equivalents ; the 1970 team that defended the WC in Mexico were very unfortunate - man for man, perhaps better than the 66 side that won it. Terry Cooper, the Leeds full back was at least as good at overlapping as Ashley Cole today, and the 70 side had to play their most crucial group game against Brazil in Guadalajara at mid-day when temps were in the low 40s. Brazil were without doubt the best team I have seen but England only lost 0-1 and should have equalized through Jeff Astle near the end. Bobby Moore was out of this world in that game and the side kept possession far better than the current one. The loss to the Germans in the QF should never have happened, and probably wouldn't have done if Ramsey had left Bobby Charlton on the field ; when he came off, Beckenbauer was able to come forward and it changed the game. Banks was suspected of being food-poisoned as he suddenly fell ill just before the game, and I doubt he would have conceded at least 2 of the goals. Don't think modern players care about the National side and many of them lack talent. They get their money too easily and there are other social factors ; even Brazil are not producing the players they used to and they have a pop of 160m..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 This is why I couldn't give a shit how England do. I hate 75% of the squad and always seem to be saying 'why was he not picked ahead of him' and so on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Sorry for the double post, im on my phone, but Gareth fucking Barry was the final straw for me. Worst regular England player I have ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Any of the ones that contained Keith Curle. What a cunt that man is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Gareth Barry has been shit for everyone since leaving Villa,he more than anyone make a mockery of Capello's selection on form policy. That said,you must have shit in your eyes as Barry is nowhere near the worst,I mean Thomas,Palmer,P.Neville,Sinton,SWP,Henderson,Ricketts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Barry started off well at international level, but he's been poor since his last season at Villa. I'd give Huddlestone his spot, much more of a presence than Barry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 James - Finished YEARS ago Johnson - Terrible, dreadful player Terry - On his way out, half the player he was Carragher - NOBODY rates him outside of Merseyside for good reason Cole - Arsehole, probably terrible for team morale, but good player Gerrard - Used to be a world class player. Inconsistent for club, consistently anonymous for England Barry - Makeweight Lampard - Finished playing a while ago Lennon - Solid PL standard player. Rooney - League 1 standard. Nothing more than hype. Heskey - WTF?! This was the shower of shite who embarrassed us in SA. EASILY the worst England team and performance in my memory (I'm 27). Team that I would pick: Hart Richards Lescott Terry (The lack of English CBs is shocking!) Cole Milner Barton A. Johnson Lennon Carroll Bent Not ideal, but would have done a damn sight better than the gutless wankers who allegedly represent England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Despite the fact that Bent has consistently shown throughout his career that he only operates successfully as a lone striker?Carroll and Rooney for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I still think the current team has a good tournament left in them. The last World Cup was a disaster, for various reasons, but we do have real quality in Ferdinand, Terry, Cole, Gerrard, and Rooney. We've had real problems at keeper (which may be sorted with Hart) and at target man (which may be sorted with Carroll) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 James - Finished YEARS ago Johnson - Terrible, dreadful player Terry - On his way out, half the player he was Carragher - NOBODY rates him outside of Merseyside for good reason Cole - Arsehole, probably terrible for team morale, but good player Gerrard - Used to be a world class player. Inconsistent for club, consistently anonymous for England Barry - Makeweight Lampard - Finished playing a while ago Lennon - Solid PL standard player. Rooney - League 1 standard. Nothing more than hype. Heskey - WTF?! This was the shower of shite who embarrassed us in SA. EASILY the worst England team and performance in my memory (I'm 27). Team that I would pick: Hart Richards Lescott Terry (The lack of English CBs is shocking!) Cole Milner Barton A. Johnson Lennon Carroll Bent Not ideal, but would have done a damn sight better than the gutless wankers who allegedly represent England. Jesus H. fucking Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 From now on I'd go with: Hart Richards Ferdinand Cahill Cole Lennon Wilshere Gerrard Johnson Rooney Carroll Foster & Loach G.Johnson, Jagielka, Baines, Shawcross, Gibbs, Smalling, Young, Milner, Rodwell, Albrighton, Huddlestone Bent, Defoe, Walcott, Wellbeck Ferdinand and Cole are the only 30+ players worth sticking with IMO. We've got a fairly easy group so use it to blood the new younger players, same with friendlies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Sewelly: So you'd stick with the team that proved they were s**** at the world cup? Yeah, it's fine, just keep ploughing ahead regardless, Rooney's bound to score sometime! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Lescott is fucking garbage. A small child could bully him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridman Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 How fickle are football fans? After the WC qualifiers everyone was like "UNBEATABLE, WE´LL WIN WORLD CUP. BEST TEAM SINCE 66 AND THE BEXT STRIKER IN THE WORLD WAYNE ROOOONEEEEYYYYYYYYY" Then after you got schooled by the Nazis England is absolutely shit and the worst team in living memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 How fickle are football fans? After the WC qualifiers everyone was like "UNBEATABLE, WE´LL WIN WORLD CUP. BEST TEAM SINCE 66 AND THE BEXT STRIKER IN THE WORLD WAYNE ROOOONEEEEYYYYYYYYY" Then after you got schooled by the Nazis England is absolutely s***. They weren't like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Lescott cost £8m more than Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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