Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #nufc DON'T have an option to buy Stephen Ireland in loan deal. #avfc want him back in summer for a potential fresh start Birmingham mail Got to question his commitment if things start to go wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 In that case there's nothing lost is there? Means we don't have to rush other players back. He'll also be wanting to play well to either revive his Villa career or win a move here so it's win-win really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Glad for the singing. He'll get my support. BTW, we are all fucking mental because we support newcastle. He will probably fit right in. In a midfield with Joey Barton, Hatem Ben Arfa and Stephen Ireland, it'll be a sane fourth player who doesn't fit in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Bit stupid if we don't have a purchase option. Lets just butter him up for Villa so he can go back raring to go next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Bit stupid if we don't have a purchase option. Lets just butter him up for Villa so he can go back raring to go next season. There's plenty of that going on all through the league,we're doing the same with Kyle Walker for Spurs. Loans. They're the new, errr, something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Bit stupid if we don't have a purchase option. To be honest, not much to do about it. I'm sure we wanted 'an option to buy' in the deal but Aston Villa rejected it... and we still want Ireland so we must continue without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If we want Ireland bad enough at the end of the season it'll mean: A. He's played well. B. Something at this club has made him improve. If these things happen, i can imagine we'll buy him - clause or no clause. Why would he want to go back to Villa where he completely stagnated, when he's re-invented himself here? I'm speaking hypothetically, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I've put the feelers out to see if theirs a clause to buy. My cousins going for a pint with his old man later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If we want Ireland bad enough at the end of the season it'll mean: A. He's played well. B. Something at this club has made him improve. If these things happen, i can imagine we'll buy him - clause or no clause. Why would he want to go back to Villa where he completely stagnated, when he's re-invented himself here? I'm speaking hypothetically, obviously. Makes it easier for them to hike up the asking price though once he's playing well as other clubs will show interest then too. It's not really comparable to the Ben Arfa deal at all because he wasn't being farmed out on loan due to poor form, at least not to my knowledge. The Ben Arfa deal is more comparable to us loaning out Bellamy years back because he fell out with Souness. We profited from a bust-up at another club and landed a very gifted player. The Ireland deal is another club loaning a player they don't see any use for this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 See, that's the thing, nobody forces players to do anything these days. I hope he does very well with you, too, as it means we'll either sell him to you, or we'll have him back after having put in a decent few months. The problem is, this thread contains lots of the things I saw when he joined us. 1. "He's got something to prove" 2. "He's very talented" (this bit is true) 3. "He's been forced out of City, he'll flourish in this environment" 4. "Who cares if he's mental, he just wants to play football" (he didn't) 5. "He was fantastic two years ago, if we can get that back, we've a hell of a player" 6. "All that lying about his gran / miscarriages / whatever stuff is in the past" (it wasn't, he started pulling tricks with us) etc etc etc. The issue i have with him is that I strongly suspect he's so utterly bonkers, he's never going to get it sorted. People are seeing what they want to see, and that is a good season from him in our relegation season, they are quite willing to forget that his good season is 1 in 5 1/2. He could turn out to be a good signing for us yet the low risk that is mentioned is that we'll be playing a player who might not perform and we'll suffer during games because of it. We don't even know how we're going to fit him into the team because his position isn't obvious due to Nolan playing in the position he's ideally suited to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This not happened yet fuckin hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This not happened yet fuckin hell Probably hinges on Carroll being sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 It hinges on Villa signing that Bradley guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 It hinges on Villa signing that Bradley guy. Who we really should be going for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Failed medical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Failed medical. Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Failed medical. Goes from bad to worse. Oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Perphaps thats why the confrence was canceld, and its not Carroll leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This failed medical thing is doing the rounds down here as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hasn't he been on the bench for Villa lately? How can you be a squad player and still fail a medical? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Brilliant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Failed medical. according to who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hasn't he been on the bench for Villa lately? How can you be a squad player and still fail a medical? Psychological assessment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 i've no problem getting Ireland in on loan but i'd be gutted if we sold Carroll and started frittering away the cash on someone like this. failing a medical, if true, might just be dodging a bullet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 "We're all gearing towards the last day." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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