Guest Antec Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 If the formation Pardew uses is 4-2-3-1 then I'd imagine the 3 may interchange a fair bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Would anyone else be worried that if we signed him, Marveaux and HBA we would have 3 too similar players to able to accommodate them into the one formation? Don't see how. Marveaux's best position is on the left. N'Zogbia's best position is on the right. Ben Arfa's best position is in the middle. Where does mataudi fit in?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Would anyone else be worried that if we signed him, Marveaux and HBA we would have 3 too similar players to able to accommodate them into the one formation? Don't see how. Marveaux's best position is on the left. N'Zogbia's best position is on the right. Ben Arfa's best position is in the middle. Where does mataudi fit in?! Bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Would anyone else be worried that if we signed him, Marveaux and HBA we would have 3 too similar players to able to accommodate them into the one formation? Don't see how. Marveaux's best position is on the left. N'Zogbia's best position is on the right. Ben Arfa's best position is in the middle. Where does mataudi fit in?! Bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I can't believe this transfer window so far and its not even July. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I can't believe this transfer window so far and its not even July. Contrast to last year, where it took until mid July to make our first signing: James Perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Difficult to know what to make of this one. A few days ago the club were briefing that Charlie and his people were being mercenary. Yet still word from his camp seems to be he is desperate to come to us. One thing for sure is for Ashley to cough up it's going to have to be a good deal. Reckon he might be interested at 7m, though so would plenty of other clubs. Hoping this could still happen, would make for a great forward line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I think the club will probably try to shift Barton and Routledge before bringing in N'Zogbia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwegian-Geordie Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Would anyone else be worried that if we signed him, Marveaux and HBA we would have 3 too similar players to able to accommodate them into the one formation? Don't see how. Marveaux's best position is on the left. N'Zogbia's best position is on the right. Ben Arfa's best position is in the middle. Where does mataudi fit in?! Bench. As a CM/DM, Seeing as that is his best position? Can't say I've seen too much of him, but it doesn't semm like he is the same kind of player as those mentioned above. Will probably play alongside Tiote. Why does everyone want Marveaux instead of Jonas on the left btw? Most of us haven't even seen him play ffs. But with Marveaux's injury record Jonas will probably play a lot anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 And why he called him "insomnia" ? He was an old, idiotic man and just couldn't pronounce his name properly. I think Charles thought it meant that Kinnear wasn't showing him respect. He was probably right! I remember when he was publicly trying to sell Enrique . He did everything in public. He'd have a shit out in the open if anyone would let him. When Carroll decked N'Zogbia he practically invited the press to come and watch round two while muttering "it wuz just 'andbags" over and over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Sorry if it seems like i'm harrassing you here like Cronky, but I disagree again with this one, 1 year on his contract or not there is competition to sign him. If there was a chance we could get him on a free in a year then I would agree, there isn't though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. I disagree, I think N'Zogbia and Sturridge should both be players that we're going all out for and would both enhance our starting 11. Our movement on and off the ball would be potentially frightening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Agree. We have money, why not invest for the future, there are really no excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Just because a player is in the last year on his contract should not detract us from paying £10M+ imo. As Charlie will be an instant star and key member of our team and we should be trying all we can to get him back here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 For certain players being in the last year of the contract doesn't have a great affect on the price, just the willingness of the selling club to accept any offers. I think N'Zogbia falls into that category, there'll be offers of £8-10m for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Aye, we shouldn't look at it like "we're been swindled by Wigan", we should look at it like "it will be difficult to get a better, younger player than N'Zogbia (with Prem experience) for £9m" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. Do you think £9m is over the odds for a player of his abilty? If you don't think it is an inflated price for his ability then the point about his contract becomes moot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. Do you think £9m is over the odds for a player of his abilty? If you don't think it is an inflated price for his ability then the point about his contract becomes moot. Could we attract anyone a) better or b) if yes, cheaper? I think the answer to both is no, so it's a no-brainer that we should pay whatever it takes (upto a certain limit of course but I think the limit is within our reach). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. Do you think £9m is over the odds for a player of his abilty? If you don't think it is an inflated price for his ability then the point about his contract becomes moot. Could we attract anyone a) better or b) if yes, cheaper? I think the answer to both is no, so it's a no-brainer that we should pay whatever it takes (upto a certain limit of course but I think the limit is within our reach). Agreed. If we say no to N'Zogbia because he's in the last year of his contract and we want him for cheaper, but then sign someone else for £9m, what was the point? With Barton, Jonas, HBA and Marveaux i'm not sure we really need him, mind you. would prefer us going for an attacking midfielder who is more comfortable playing centrally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. I disagree, I think N'Zogbia and Sturridge should both be players that we're going all out for and would both enhance our starting 11. Our movement on and off the ball would be potentially frightening. is the right answer We should be doing everything to get both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. Do you think £9m is over the odds for a player of his abilty? If you don't think it is an inflated price for his ability then the point about his contract becomes moot. Could we attract anyone a) better or b) if yes, cheaper? I think the answer to both is no, so it's a no-brainer that we should pay whatever it takes (upto a certain limit of course but I think the limit is within our reach). Well there are two issues. Given that we now have two players who would fill a similar role to Zoggy, wouldn't £9 million be better spent on another area of the side? The other one is the assessment of his ability. I guess I don't rate him as high as some others do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. Do you think £9m is over the odds for a player of his abilty? If you don't think it is an inflated price for his ability then the point about his contract becomes moot. Could we attract anyone a) better or b) if yes, cheaper? I think the answer to both is no, so it's a no-brainer that we should pay whatever it takes (upto a certain limit of course but I think the limit is within our reach). Precisely, I'm all for a bit of frugality but at £9m we're effectively talking about a buy-back clause of £3m! Having said that, as much I'd love zog here (never wanted him to leave), I'd rather the money got put to a number 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't think we should push the boat out to sign Zoggy, now that we've got Ben Arfa and Marveaux on board. Even £9m is over the odds for a player of his ability in the last year of his contract. Do you think £9m is over the odds for a player of his abilty? If you don't think it is an inflated price for his ability then the point about his contract becomes moot. Could we attract anyone a) better or b) if yes, cheaper? I think the answer to both is no, so it's a no-brainer that we should pay whatever it takes (upto a certain limit of course but I think the limit is within our reach). Precisely, I'm all for a bit of frugality but at £9m we're effectively talking about a buy-back clause of £3m! Having said that, as much I'd love zog here (never wanted him to leave), I'd rather the money got put to a number 9. Seems very fair when you look at it that way. He's a better player than when he left here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I think, with a degree of certainty, that we are in the market for a right sided midfielder. Be that Zog, Barnetta or some other. Barton is surplus to requirements, they want him gone one way or another. Not necessarilly a position I agree with but I do see their reasoning to a degree. Barton was immense in many of the games we played, more so than Nolan in my opinion.. but of all the players that could drop a wrench in the works you have to have Barton near the top of the list, even if he didn't meant to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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