JH Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Aston Villa boss Alex McLeish on the imminent arrival of Charles N'Zogbia: "He's an explosive player and he gives us a little bit of quality to replace one or two of the guys that have left the club." Wow. Villa really showing us up here. Because they've signed a player? Because they've sold a couple of their quality players, identified someone as good (if not better) and spent the money on bringing him in. If we'd done the same with Carroll, there'd be fewer complaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Aston Villa boss Alex McLeish on the imminent arrival of Charles N'Zogbia: "He's an explosive player and he gives us a little bit of quality to replace one or two of the guys that have left the club." Wow. Villa really showing us up here. Because they've signed a player? Because they've sold a couple of their quality players, identified someone as good (if not better) and spent the money on bringing him in. If we'd done the same with Carroll, there'd be fewer complaining. We've done that with Nolan though (Cabaye) and we're attempting to replace Carroll with Ba and Erdinc. Not to mention the new water fountain at the training ground and tarmac at sd.com@SJP. You fans demand too much. [/Llambias] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 a water fountain :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 a water fountain :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Aston Villa boss Alex McLeish on the imminent arrival of Charles N'Zogbia: "He's an explosive player and he gives us a little bit of quality to replace one or two of the guys that have left the club." Wow. Villa really showing us up here. Because they've signed a player? Because they've signed one player to replace two equally good if not better players? Whereas we have replaced both our losses and have actually increased in numbers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 We've replaced our losses have we? Can't see a good enough Carroll replacement myself. We needed two strikers before we sold him in January. Nor can I see a decent enough Enrique replacement when he finally f***s off. Although I'm not surprised some can't understand what Villa are doing. Losing a left winger and spending the money to replace him with a quality left winger. How crazy!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If N'Zogbia goes through, they'll have brought in 2 players (Given being the other) for £12.5m. They have lost 10 players (including around 5 first teamers) for a combined total of £36m this window alone. If you are including Carroll, then you also have to include Ben Arfa as part of the winter window. This window we have so far brought in 4 in while losing one first teamer. Let's see where we both stand at the end of the window, but as it stands now, yes I can see what they are doing, cost cutting to a far greater extent than we are, and not in a better position than when the window opened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Who have they sold/lost so far? Apart from Young and Downing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Who have they sold/lost so far? Apart from Young and Downing? Young and Downing sold Friedel, NRC, Carew, and seven other players released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Who have they sold/lost so far? Apart from Young and Downing? Young and Downing sold Friedel, NRC, Carew, and seven other players released. But have you got a borehole at your training ground? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 One big opportunity for us to sign a proven, in-form Premier League player at an affordable price, a good age, someone with qualities we need such as pace, skill and creativity. And it would seem we have gone for the cheaper option with Marveaux on a bosman, a player with major question marks over his injury record. Now I don't know anything about Marveaux other than Liverpool had a look and that, much like the Gosling signing, he's on the back of a serious injury and hasn't played in donkeys. But I'm pretty disappointed we've gone down this route seeing as we should have money to spend. Given how the Gosling signing went and the problems we've had with injury lists over the years, not to mention all our signings have come abroad, you'd have thought the N'Zogbia deal would be a much more attractive option and well worth the cost. According to Pardew, these bosman deals have set us back financially anyway, which makes even less sense why we didn't just go in for N'Zogbia. All we can do now is hope Marveaux is the business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 One big opportunity for us to sign a proven, in-form Premier League player at an affordable price, a good age, someone with qualities we need such as pace, skill and creativity. And it would seem we have gone for the cheaper option with Marveaux on a bosman, a player with major question marks over his injury record. Now I don't know anything about Marveaux other than Liverpool had a look and that, much like the Gosling signing, he's on the back of a serious injury and hasn't played in donkeys. But I'm pretty disappointed we've gone down this route seeing as we should have money to spend. Given how the Gosling signing went and the problems we've had with injury lists over the years, not to mention all our signings have come abroad, you'd have thought the N'Zogbia deal would be a much more attractive option and well worth the cost. According to Pardew, these bosman deals have set us back financially anyway, which makes even less sense why we didn't just go in for N'Zogbia. All we can do now is hope Marveaux is the business. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If you look retrospectively, yep. But back to the time before Marveaux's signed, would you take a gamble to wait for N'Zogbia, or just go for the safer option? It's not just about money, but the risk involved by giving up Marveaux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 No matter if we signed Marveaux or not we should have gone for Zoggy as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 One big opportunity for us to sign a proven, in-form Premier League player at an affordable price, a good age, someone with qualities we need such as pace, skill and creativity. And it would seem we have gone for the cheaper option with Marveaux on a bosman, a player with major question marks over his injury record. Now I don't know anything about Marveaux other than Liverpool had a look and that, much like the Gosling signing, he's on the back of a serious injury and hasn't played in donkeys. But I'm pretty disappointed we've gone down this route seeing as we should have money to spend. Given how the Gosling signing went and the problems we've had with injury lists over the years, not to mention all our signings have come abroad, you'd have thought the N'Zogbia deal would be a much more attractive option and well worth the cost. According to Pardew, these bosman deals have set us back financially anyway, which makes even less sense why we didn't just go in for N'Zogbia. All we can do now is hope Marveaux is the business. No matter if we signed Marveaux or not we should have gone for Zoggy as well. This and this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 One big opportunity for us to sign a proven, in-form Premier League player at an affordable price, a good age, someone with qualities we need such as pace, skill and creativity. And it would seem we have gone for the cheaper option with Marveaux on a bosman, a player with major question marks over his injury record. Now I don't know anything about Marveaux other than Liverpool had a look and that, much like the Gosling signing, he's on the back of a serious injury and hasn't played in donkeys. But I'm pretty disappointed we've gone down this route seeing as we should have money to spend. Given how the Gosling signing went and the problems we've had with injury lists over the years, not to mention all our signings have come abroad, you'd have thought the N'Zogbia deal would be a much more attractive option and well worth the cost. According to Pardew, these bosman deals have set us back financially anyway, which makes even less sense why we didn't just go in for N'Zogbia. All we can do now is hope Marveaux is the business. No matter if we signed Marveaux or not we should have gone for Zoggy as well. This and this. Why didn't Villa sign Marveaux as well as Zog as well then? Not to mention they should have been in for Cabaye and Ba seeing as they were all available cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If you look retrospectively, yep. But back to the time before Marveaux's signed, would you take a gamble to wait for N'Zogbia, or just go for the safer option? It's not just about money, but the risk involved by giving up Marveaux. Why did we have to wait for N'Zogbia? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Why didn't Villa sign Marveaux as well as Zog as well then? Not to mention they should have been in for Cabaye and Ba seeing as they were all available cheap. Give over man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 One big opportunity for us to sign a proven, in-form Premier League player at an affordable price, a good age, someone with qualities we need such as pace, skill and creativity. And it would seem we have gone for the cheaper option with Marveaux on a bosman, a player with major question marks over his injury record. Now I don't know anything about Marveaux other than Liverpool had a look and that, much like the Gosling signing, he's on the back of a serious injury and hasn't played in donkeys. But I'm pretty disappointed we've gone down this route seeing as we should have money to spend. Given how the Gosling signing went and the problems we've had with injury lists over the years, not to mention all our signings have come abroad, you'd have thought the N'Zogbia deal would be a much more attractive option and well worth the cost. According to Pardew, these bosman deals have set us back financially anyway, which makes even less sense why we didn't just go in for N'Zogbia. All we can do now is hope Marveaux is the business. No matter if we signed Marveaux or not we should have gone for Zoggy as well. This and this. Why didn't Villa sign Marveaux as well as Zog as well then? Not to mention they should have been in for Cabaye and Ba seeing as they were all available cheap. Are you being serious? I think i might watch my Chuck Norris collection again instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If you look retrospectively, yep. But back to the time before Marveaux's signed, would you take a gamble to wait for N'Zogbia, or just go for the safer option? It's not just about money, but the risk involved by giving up Marveaux. Why did we have to wait for N'Zogbia? Obviously Wigan were still waiting for offers from various clubs because they thought the demand was high, back in June. The situation changes drastically since then, because we've gone for Marveaux and Liverpool signed Downing. Sunderland cannot afford the fees and therefore only Villa left. It did worth pointing out that Marveaux could be the first priority for Liverpool instead of Downing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If you look retrospectively, yep. But back to the time before Marveaux's signed, would you take a gamble to wait for N'Zogbia, or just go for the safer option? It's not just about money, but the risk involved by giving up Marveaux. There's nothing retrospective about it. If you go back earlier in the thread, myself and others were making the case for signing him back then. There was no need to wait for N'Zogbia, he's been available all summer. As many pointed out earlier in the thread, if you wait he will sign for a rival and that's what's happening now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Obviously Wigan were still waiting for offers from various clubs because they thought the demand was high, back in June. The situation changes drastically since then, because we've gone for Marveaux and Liverpool signed Downing. Sunderland cannot afford the fees and therefore only Villa left. It did worth pointing out that Marveaux could be the first priority for Liverpool instead of Downing. We didn't have to wait, we already knew that N'Zogbia was going to be sold. I don't see what Liverpool going for Marveaux ahead of Downing has to do with anything as we don't know how they came about prioritising targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If you look retrospectively, yep. But back to the time before Marveaux's signed, would you take a gamble to wait for N'Zogbia, or just go for the safer option? It's not just about money, but the risk involved by giving up Marveaux. There's nothing retrospective about it. If you go back earlier in the thread, myself and others were making the case for signing him back then. There was no need to wait for N'Zogbia, he's been available all summer. As many pointed out earlier in the thread, if you wait he will sign for a rival and that's what's happening now. Wigan only issue the 10m quoted price after the Marveaux and Downing deal. I don't think they were asking for the same price before. They were inviting a bidding war which didn't materialized, and end up selling on a cheap to Villa. Well that's just my thought. I have no evidence to support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Honestly never thought he would go to Villa, guess he's never going to have a chance to test himself in top top team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 N'Zogbia would have been a much better signing than Marveaux, in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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