Mick Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 49 seconds - 59 seconds is a point that many seem incapable of grasping. I'd agree if it wasn't for Pardew waiting in the wings for Hughton to get sacked. Edit, Something which Keegan will not have known about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 So he's a bit of a cunt? Tell us something we don't know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfmag Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I introduced myself to him in the Directors Lounge tonight after the game. He was polite and affable and offered the opinion that we "will be ok this season"..... I also hovered beside MA as much as I could and he was affable as well with everyone he spoke to. The only nugget I got was that we have received "most" of the Carroll fee in one lump sum, which is unusual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I introduced myself to him in the Directors Lounge tonight after the game. He was polite and affable and offered the opinion that we "will be ok this season"..... I also hovered beside MA as much as I could and he was affable as well with everyone he spoke to. The only nugget I got was that we have received "most" of the Carroll fee in one lump sum, which is unusual. You were that close and you didn't glass them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I introduced myself to him in the Directors Lounge tonight after the game. He was polite and affable and offered the opinion that we "will be ok this season"..... I also hovered beside MA as much as I could and he was affable as well with everyone he spoke to. The only nugget I got was that we have received "most" of the Carroll fee in one lump sum, which is unusual. Cant imagine what I would have done to Jabba if I was so close to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 You're speaking a lot of sense James, and I could talk about ways and times to start pursuing this, but my overall feeling is that the opportunity for focusing on him has passed. Long story short, I can't see a protest against Llambias not quickly getting dragged onto Ashley, or being seen by Ashley as attacking him also. And I can't see judicious business criticisms being made that will move Ashley and turn him against Llambias because most people doing the criticising still aren't able to understand the business model Ashley and Llambias are working with - the speculate to accumulate message a lot of people would like to promote means next to nothing to Ashley, he's got a different agenda. Furthermore, I think Llambias will make it his business to say or agree with whatever he thinks Ashley thinks on any issue that could affect his future, so criticisms of him will still be criticisms of Ashley... though I give you that Ashley might be good at forgetting he also thought something stupid was a good idea at the time and blaming someone else... Of course Llambias will put the Ashley case, what else could he do? Llambias is an absolute c*nt and everyone knows what Ashley is about and how he operates, we've seen what's happened here and we can all read how he operates with Sports Direct. But this whole " different agenda" stuff that you refer to - it involves completely f*cking and drastically reducing the value of a business he's stuffed hundreds of millions into does it? It involves playing yo-yo with the leagues and surrendering tens of millions in revenue? We lost to Fulham and may well lose to Arsenal, dark forces are at work... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 No idea where the blame lies, be it Ashley, Pardew, the scouting network or Llambias, but to let 3 players leave and only one injured one to arrive when we've already got such a threadbare squad is tantamount to gross misconduct. Sure, it's impossible to fully foresee the Carroll situation exactly as it unfolded. But they must have realised a bid was possible, if not probable, and should have had a plan B for if that was the case and the bid was either too much or the player wanted out. Let's face it, that's exactly what Liverpool did when Chelsea came in for Torres. Why couldn't we? I doubt Liverpool foresaw their prize asset leaving any more than we did but somehow they managed to sign TWO good replacements. It's called planning for every eventuality, and we didn't f***ing do it. I realise you pay a premium near deadline day, but let's just hope we don't pay a bigger price at the end of the season if we keep turning in insipid displays like today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I introduced myself to him in the Directors Lounge tonight after the game. He was polite and affable and offered the opinion that we "will be ok this season"..... I also hovered beside MA as much as I could and he was affable as well with everyone he spoke to. The only nugget I got was that we have received "most" of the Carroll fee in one lump sum, which is unusual. You were that close and you didn't glass them? 3-wood to the head would have been sufficient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Never seen that Keegan thing before. 49 seconds - 59 seconds is a point that many seem incapable of grasping. I'd agree if it wasn't for Pardew waiting in the wings for Hughton to get sacked. Edit, Something which Keegan will not have known about. indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I introduced myself to him in the Directors Lounge tonight after the game. He was polite and affable and offered the opinion that we "will be ok this season"..... I also hovered beside MA as much as I could and he was affable as well with everyone he spoke to. The only nugget I got was that we have received "most" of the Carroll fee in one lump sum, which is unusual. Cant imagine what I would have done to Jabba if I was so close to him I would have strangled him with Pardew's chains. https://picasaweb.google.com/matthewdmillan/UntitledAlbum#5548458339202168370 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfmag Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I introduced myself to him in the Directors Lounge tonight after the game. He was polite and affable and offered the opinion that we "will be ok this season"..... I also hovered beside MA as much as I could and he was affable as well with everyone he spoke to. The only nugget I got was that we have received "most" of the Carroll fee in one lump sum, which is unusual. It's quite bizarre how affable they are, given what we know. Sorry, but it's the only word I can think of to describe them. You were that close and you didn't glass them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 49 seconds - 59 seconds is a point that many seem incapable of grasping. You do know that footage is from when Pards took over? As I think after the 1st game where people were a bit wary most got behind Pardew but the way he has been spinning this week that is gone now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm not a violent person, don't think I've been in a fight since I was about 8, yet I genuinely think I'd violently attack either of them if I ever saw them out and about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 My beef is with Llambias and Ashley. They sacked Hughton, they dealt with Pardew before Hughton left, they didn't release funds to strengthen the squad in January. As far as I'm concerned, Pardew is just a puppet who is a bit of c***, but he's being strung along like the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 My beef is with Llambias and Ashley. They sacked Hughton, they dealt with Pardew before Hughton left, they didn't release funds to strengthen the squad in January. As far as I'm concerned, Pardew is just a puppet who is a bit of c***, but he's being strung along like the rest of us. Pardew knew what his role was going to be though, and it says quite a bit about his ambition. We won't get a proper manager until Ashley sells the club and by the look of things that won't happen until 2016. Happy days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 We won't get a proper anything until he fucks off. Mind you, I think Pardew will be gone before Ashley is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Golfmag, I find it remarkable that you were composed enough to not twat the bastards. I'm a calm, polite man but I think I'd lose it in the vicinity of those imbeciles. One day - somehow - Ashley will leave. And so will Llambias. It seems like forever away but one day it will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 You're speaking a lot of sense James, and I could talk about ways and times to start pursuing this, but my overall feeling is that the opportunity for focusing on him has passed. Long story short, I can't see a protest against Llambias not quickly getting dragged onto Ashley, or being seen by Ashley as attacking him also. And I can't see judicious business criticisms being made that will move Ashley and turn him against Llambias because most people doing the criticising still aren't able to understand the business model Ashley and Llambias are working with - the speculate to accumulate message a lot of people would like to promote means next to nothing to Ashley, he's got a different agenda. Furthermore, I think Llambias will make it his business to say or agree with whatever he thinks Ashley thinks on any issue that could affect his future, so criticisms of him will still be criticisms of Ashley... though I give you that Ashley might be good at forgetting he also thought something stupid was a good idea at the time and blaming someone else... Of course Llambias will put the Ashley case, what else could he do? Llambias is an absolute c*nt and everyone knows what Ashley is about and how he operates, we've seen what's happened here and we can all read how he operates with Sports Direct. But this whole " different agenda" stuff that you refer to - it involves completely f*cking and drastically reducing the value of a business he's stuffed hundreds of millions into does it? It involves playing yo-yo with the leagues and surrendering tens of millions in revenue? We lost to Fulham and may well lose to Arsenal, dark forces are at work... A good employee would give his boss his best, most honest opinion, so he could do that - I'm just pointing out that there will be less to divide him and Ashley on than James would like because Llambias will make sure there is. Ashley (and Llambias?) will solemnly believe we won't go down this season, so they've taken no real risks as far as they're concerned. Most supporters' agendas involve us trying to retain our best players and going up the league, eventually into Europe etc. - and therefore their financial advice will be geared to it. Yes, I don't think this is a high priority for Ashley. They're more interested in not going down with a team not financially designed to go down, which means certain investments 'football people' think are sensible aren't good ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Golfmag, I find it remarkable that you were composed enough to not t*** the bastards. I'm a calm, polite man but I think I'd lose it in the vicinity of those imbeciles. One day - somehow - Ashley will leave. And so will Llambias. It seems like forever away but one day it will happen. And it will be the greatest day ever. fuck me, it'll feel like winning the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 One day Ashley will have a heart attack on his toilet made of broken dreams. There have been a lot of disgustingly fat pricks that have lived past 50, but here's hoping... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 A further sign of Llambias' incompetency with the Joey Barton talks. I have no reason to believe that Ashley wouldn't sanction it. What we have is a man who is so far up his own arse he can't see what the manager is saying, what the fans are all saying, in that Barton is an integral part of the team and currently maintains a unique position in that he is one of the people behind the drive and determination the team has shown. Even a better player would not be able to replicate that, but Llambias is being too stubborn on things which he doesn't have a clue. What is also clear is that he is someone who is clearly unable to communicate with players, managers, agents, and fans and for that reason alone is completely useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 A further sign of Llambias' incompetency with the Joey Barton talks. I have no reason to believe that Ashley wouldn't sanction it. What we have is a man who is so far up his own arse he can't see what the manager is saying, what the fans are all saying, in that Barton is an integral part of the team and currently maintains a unique position in that he is one of the people behind the drive and determination the team has shown. Even a better player would not be able to replicate that, but Llambias is being too stubborn on things which he doesn't have a clue. What is also clear is that he is someone who is clearly unable to communicate with players, managers, agents, and fans and for that reason alone is completely useless. I might agree if it wasn't Willie McKay. From seeing all the quotes it appears Barton wants 4 year contract, isn't getting what he wants so McKay has come out in the press to push it through by getting the press and fans on Llambias and Ashleys back. That's worked so well in the past though hasn't it................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Simon Cowell got the idea for his new game show Red or Black from Llambias and Ashley's attitude to the January transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I don't think Llambias is that powerful a figure. Ashley sets out the strategy, all the major decisions are run past him, and Llambias carries them out. There's a danger of looking for complicated explanations when a simple one will do. The owner has made it publicly clear that he wants the club to be breaking even financially by a certain time, and that the wage bill needs to come down. That was always going to be a problem for players like Barton who were on larger salaries than the new regime feels can be sustained. Getting anyone in any walk of life to take a pay cut is not a simple matter. I'm not convinced that the offer is ridiculously low because we've seen other players of similar stature this season - Ben Arfa, Carroll, Tiote - sign up. So the question is - do you start to deviate from your strategy because it's Joey Barton? I don't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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