Tiresias Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's oddly his reliability that's most incredible, most great players, people understandably forget their off days, Messi you don't need to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 2nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/695093980.jpg?key=4705264&Expires=1354309408&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=jkv4T3lQ5nUkpo~a4oHVxYtOShZKf2hj9M9HVr9cNupNiwBMgJ-tVygNs98-C~wtafNjj8AQ8QcEmPIRIez9BA624ScOLiC2Nzuv2gQZmYsmU~qVOdA9fKqEv1RjslfASu9Ssp6QuTuN4-wRB0pHA~aAXBYzLy4wyHpyaMonH4o_ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I was just watching a compilation there. Honestly man it's like he has Bernard's Watch when he's dribbling. You genuinely couldn't get it off him in a phone box like, he makes everyone else look like Amdy Faye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 What was the photo? Not showing for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Fugazi: http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/fourfourtwoview/archive/2012/11/30/muller-and-messi-s-golden-years-a-graphical-representation.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Fugazi: http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/fourfourtwoview/archive/2012/11/30/muller-and-messi-s-golden-years-a-graphical-representation.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The title ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Very clever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 781,432nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Ranks high in the scapegoat category. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Agree.^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 He really doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Well, it really depends on who is doing the scapegoating in fairness. On the forum, his stock seems to rise as high as "model pro, decent fourth choice CB for a club with our resources" (which seems a fair assessment to me) and drop as low as "get rid, not good enough, I would rather play Street/Good/no one at all" depending on our form. We've been over this so very many times. He's fine, not great. Very limited ball-player. Perfectly capable of functioning in a decent, winning attacking side - the trick is for him not to be doing the attacking. Again, similarly to why he is getting the volume of games he is, the responsibility for that lies with the Ashley/Pardew regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 He's simply shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Well, it really depends on who is doing the scapegoating in fairness. On the forum, his stock seems to rise as high as "model pro, decent fourth choice CB for a club with our resources" (which seems a fair assessment to me) and drop as low as "get rid, not good enough, I would rather play Street/Good/no one at all" depending on our form. We've been over this so very many times. He's fine, not great. Very limited ball-player. Perfectly capable of functioning in a decent, winning attacking side - the trick is for him not to be doing the attacking. Again, similarly to why he is getting the volume of games he is, the responsibility for that lies with the Ashley/Pardew regime. His lack of ability permeates the whole side, though. The midfield stay deep to protect him, we can't play a high line because of his lack of pace and we can't trust him to play it out from the back either. And that's all before we've even gotten to the individual mistakes he seems to be making every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I don't majorly disagree with any of that tbh - although, I didn't hear a peep about this when he played at West Brom (a) last season etc (hence the scapegoating, now we're doing poorly*) - and that's why he ought to be fourth choice. As for the individual mistakes: if you give the ball away as frequently and cheaply as we do, you invite teams to attack you, which combines poorly (from our point of view) with having a fourth choice centre back as a regular first-teamer - so inevitably the opposition are going to shake some change out of Williamson at least once or twice a game given how much we let them attack him. Not taking care of the ball like we do is tantamount to asking them to rigourously inspect our defensive deficiencies. It's not lost on me that Williamson is one of the main perpetrators of losing possession for us with his punts, but again, I think this is predominantly a tactics/ethos issue for which Pardew is responsible. * - well, largely the same, minus the results/rub of the green Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Oh, and I've never been a fan of us playing a high line - our defence is super ill-suited to it. Fulham slaughtered us at the Cottage by just hitting balls into the channels. I think the defence should play deep - and with Colo, Williamson is up to task provided we're not consistently inviting the opposition to "stress test" him until he makes a rick. We'd have better in an ideal world, (or in a world post-January, hopefully), but his poor form is a symptom of an underlying ill not the cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Aaaaaaarrrrgggghhhh http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/6/22/1277195627751/Lionel-Messi-006.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Floated 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Someone, for the love of god, please change the topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 He's fucking atrocious and in no way a scapegoat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The team have been dreadful this season, and the fact that Williamson has played in most has contributed to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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