The College Dropout Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Not so much young as inexperienced - he only had 67 career starts and it shows. Hazard has 341. But does that not prove the point further? Hazard was getting more games at an even younger age than what Sammy is now. That has more to do with Hazard being a world class talent. you cant really compare one of our decent squad members from the academy to one of Chelsea's best players and expect them to have played a similar amount of games across their career. Not really. Even Harry Kane has amassed 130 odd appearances. Andros Townsend a similar total. If given the right set-up I reckon Daniel Sturridge would already be considered a world class striker. Sure he's had injury problems but he's only managed 200 league appearances and 16 England caps. Muller is the same age and has over 100 more club appearances and 50 more caps. Years on the bench is killing the potential of English players especially between 17-23. Ameobi isn't in that bracket of talent but he's suffered from similar problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 IMO we should have sold him last summer and inserted a low buy-back clause. I think that's a tremendous incentive for a young player. He's guaranteed to come back, he has to make it work very well. I believe Real Madrid did that with Carvahal. Now? A short-term contract and a seasons loan to prove himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 If he's turned down loan deals he's thick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Na. It's decision time with this lad. Either we give him a vote of confidence with a new contract, or we let him go. If we offer him a short contract and tell him we want to loan him out, he'd quite rightly tell us to fuck off. That would be a backward step for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Cheaper to stick with the inferior option as opposed to buying a (slightly) better player to simply fill a place in the squad. Cheapest = best. He'll stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Given the squad we currently have there's no reason to think why he shouldn't be considered amongst the mix to start. In Football Manager terms he's 'Squad Rotation'. Just a shame our squad is currently quite weak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/02/david-moyes-talks-newcastle-forward-reports/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Well that would be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 He's not going to Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 They don't seem in a hurry to offer him a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I think it'll be best for his career if he goes. Will be really interesting seeing him in Spain though. Crazy world where two Ameobi's could play at the Nou Camp. More here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2962305/Newcastle-United-winger-Sammy-Ameobi-talks-shock-join-David-Moyes-British-revolution-Real-Sociedad.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Watching him in Spain would be hilarious You couldn't pick a more out of place location if you tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I had a feeling they were going to cock this one up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I had a feeling they were going to cock this one up. I'd rather keep him but it really wouldn't be a tragedy if he went. It'd only be especially annoying in the sense that it would be yet another squad player lost, and yet another academy product doing very little for the club. But it's not like we'd be throwing away a club hero-to-be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I can imagine the club probably think Ameobi is an easy contract to tie up - local lad and all that. But if he is to leave, it is yet another player that needs to be replaced. I wonder if they are still trying to get rid of Obertan and if Aarons goes, then suddenly we needs wingers again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 This whole thing smacks of indecision. Pardew never seemed to make up his mind about the player, and now that we're effectively without a manager at all, it looks like a weak compromise. We'd like you to stay but we're not sure about you so we're not going to pay you the going rate. At this rate, he'll go to Sociedad because Moyes is giving him a positive message about being wanted. I can't believe that they're going to pay him more. I just hope Ashley is a fan and is prepared to intervene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I can imagine the club probably think Ameobi is an easy contract to tie up - local lad and all that. But if he is to leave, it is yet another player that needs to be replaced. I wonder if they are still trying to get rid of Obertan and if Aarons goes, then suddenly we needs wingers again. Hope they are trying to flog Obertan but doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I wouldn't give a shit if he went to be honest. Offers very little in my opinion. Will he be replaced is the main worry of mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Continues to be s very unintelligent footballer. Very frustrating performance today, he has ability. Some decent corners and crosses whipped in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 This whole thing smacks of indecision. Pardew never seemed to make up his mind about the player, and now that we're effectively without a manager at all, it looks like a weak compromise. We'd like you to stay but we're not sure about you so we're not going to pay you the going rate. At this rate, he'll go to Sociedad because Moyes is giving him a positive message about being wanted. I can't believe that they're going to pay him more. I just hope Ashley is a fan and is prepared to intervene. Tbf, you'd be literally the only person who would be remotely bothered. He's still shown barely anything and unless you have some sort of relationship with him in real life, I'm not sure why you're so bothered about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 This whole thing smacks of indecision. Pardew never seemed to make up his mind about the player, and now that we're effectively without a manager at all, it looks like a weak compromise. We'd like you to stay but we're not sure about you so we're not going to pay you the going rate. At this rate, he'll go to Sociedad because Moyes is giving him a positive message about being wanted. I can't believe that they're going to pay him more. I just hope Ashley is a fan and is prepared to intervene. Tbf, you'd be literally the only person who would be remotely bothered. He's still shown barely anything and unless you have some sort of relationship with him in real life, I'm not sure why you're so bothered about him. Moyes seems to be bothered, and his record isn't too shabby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 NUFC without an Ameobi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Refreshing to see some decent corners yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Thought he was decent yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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