Tiresias Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I'd be seriously up for Krul Debuchey Saylor Colo Santon Tiote Cabaye Jonas HBA Cisse Ba Ben arfa free role, Debuchy and Santon Wingbacks really to compensate for lack of width up top. Wouldn't work all the time, when we want width should play different but can see it working. This is reliant on Debuchy coming or a good attacking fullback because otherwise we'd have no threat down that side and would just have to defend it, or ben arfa would just end up stuck there and it'd be lopsided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I'd be seriously up for Krul Debuchey Saylor Colo Santon Tiote Cabaye Jonas HBA Cisse Ba Ben arfa free role, Debuchy and Santon Wingbacks really to compensate for lack of width up top. Wouldn't work all the time, when we want width should play different but can see it working. It's funny because the 4-3-3 ends up like that at times anyway, when Ben Arfa comes inside Ba usually joins Cisse in the box and Santon takes the space Ba leaves. In any case i have full faith in Pardew what ever system he wants to deploy i think we can make it work. The thing that pleased me was the friendly against fenerbahce we used a 4-4-2 but we didn't hoof and they would usually be a striker dropping deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Some people will probably say that Ben Arfa HAS to be on the right, and i don'r agree. I think he's very good out on the right, no doubts about that, but we also forget that when he played in the position behind the striker/s he wasn't nearly as fit as he started to become when he got placed out on the right instead. Imo he didn't have the same confidence then either, i've played both positions myself and it's always easier to start on the right if you're not in form, there you can gain confidence more easily i think. Wouldn't mind him in that position Tiresias, in a free role where he still can start from a wide position. This would work a lot better as we'll have Santon and hopefully Debuchy to give us some width, we didn't have that when Ben Arfa played in the middle (unfit and no confidence as well) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Off to West Ham according to Lee Ryder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Some people will probably say that Ben Arfa HAS to be on the right, and i don'r agree. I think he's very good out on the right, no doubts about that, but we also forget that when he played in the position behind the striker/s he wasn't nearly as fit as he started to become when he got placed out on the right instead. Imo he didn't have the same confidence then either, i've played both positions myself and it's always easier to start on the right if you're not in form, there you can gain confidence more easily i think. Wouldn't mind him in that position Tiresias, in a free role where he still can start from a wide position. This would work a lot better as we'll have Santon and hopefully Debuchy to give us some width, we didn't have that when Ben Arfa played in the middle (unfit and no confidence as well) As long as we have a system that gives us defensive stability and attacking fluidity i dont think it matters where Hatem plays be it left, centre or right as long as he has the freedom to roam. What we cant do is restrict him and make it easy for defenders to pick him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I agree 4-4-2 can be decent with passing, as long as it's against the right opposition it's fine and indeed ideal, against man u worked a treat, it's more us getting dismantled by Wigan that I want to avoid again. Cabaye needs to be given time on the ball, if midfield is overrun he can't. What pleases me though is that potentially we have a 4-4-2 that can shift without any substitutes, our standard 4-4-2 with jonas wide left and ba and cisse up top can shift if Jonas moves centrally and Ba goes out wide when required, and that should bolster midfield, and be doable on the fly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 i blame that f***ing loudmouth redknapp for all these articles trying to move demba on I couldn't agree more... Karma is B...h look where Arry is now..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Still not convinced, nowhere in that article does it say Newcastle United. He could easily mean he's looking forward to next season with Newcastle Jets. Think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR15 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I've thought about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Luke Edwards @LukeEdwardsTele Call me a cynic but Ba's strongly worded pledge to stay at #nufc comes 4 days b4 his release clause expires. Why didn't he do this earlier?! 4:33 PM - 27 Jul 12 Luke Edwards @LukeEdwardsTele Someone representing Ba leaked the existence of release clause in Jan & he wanted to have a look at his options this summer. 4:35 PM - 27 Jul 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 He's been saying or at least strongly implying he wants to stay all summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Edwards showing off why he's a c*nt yet again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Edwards showing off why he's a c*nt yet again He's been shit-stirring about this ever since it came out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't really a clause at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Edwards showing off why he's a c*nt yet again He's been s***-stirring about this ever since it came out. Yep and i don't quite get why, probably trying to get people to buy his rag. Also i would agree with the notion that was no clause at all if Pardew didn't admit there was a clause on various occasions lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Is Edwards a mackem by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Well I think Ba probably was keeping options open and looking around if anyone was interested, otherwise he would have just accepted a new contract already in all likelihood. He's been saying he's wanting to stay all summer, he may just have wanted to see if PSG wanted him I suppose. I don't think he's suddenly some hyper loyal newcastle fan, but nor does that imply he's some evil money grabbing idiot either, Pards may have been right that it's not about money for Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Pretty obvious that Ba was keeping his options open earlier this month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Edwards showing off why he's a c*nt yet again He's been s***-stirring about this ever since it came out. TBF it sounds as if hes just found something out. Would'nt say that Ba has been saying that all summer. Edwards has a point, this statement is pretty strong compared to anything ese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I have a feeling that the NUFC hierarchy are not that bothered whether he goes or not, for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The fact that Ba had that clause inserted is in itself an indication that he wanted to look at his options at the end of the season. I still think if a good offer comes in from a CL club, he'll be off. I don't think that'll happen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Pretty obvious that Ba was keeping his options open earlier this month. I think he was hoping for PSG , but they had bigger fish to fry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 If Ba had come out with this earlier, people such as Luke Edwards would simply say he was pandering to the fans and didn't mean it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I did think he was off like. pleased he looks to be staying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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