Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Needs to play behind Cisse for me. Papiss has a better touch, more awareness and imo is a better finisher. The central role should be his. Ba should play the "number 10" role, just behind to provide a headache for defenders attempting to track his runs. He always drop deep when we play 4-4-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Is "needs to be behind Cisse" the next cliché? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Reasonably convinced at this stage that his contract is heavily incentivised through goalscoring bonuses. Part of the compromises made during his free transfer because of the potential knee problem, hence the addition of get-out clause and so on. Seems like the kind of thing we'd do because we're terrified of losing money like we did on Owen, and fits with the rumours of him 'only' being on about £40k basic. When he joined the club he wasn't going to be playing anywhere but up front, so it made perfect sense at the time. That changed when we bought Cisse and stuck Ba out wide. He now wants to play through the middle at all times and Pardew is scared of losing him so sacrifices Cisse (or plays the less effective 4-4-2) instead. I've no evidence whatsoever of course, but it makes sense in my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Thought Llambias said that we don't do bonuses like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Thought Llambias said that we don't do bonuses like that? I don't trust a word that fucker says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Fair enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Reasonably convinced at this stage that his contract is heavily incentivised through goalscoring bonuses. Part of the compromises made during his free transfer because of the potential knee problem, hence the addition of get-out clause and so on. Seems like the kind of thing we'd do because we're terrified of losing money like we did on Owen, and fits with the rumours of him 'only' being on about £40k basic. When he joined the club he wasn't going to be playing anywhere but up front, so it made perfect sense at the time. That changed when we bought Cisse and stuck Ba out wide. He now wants to play through the middle at all times and Pardew is scared of losing him so sacrifices Cisse (or plays the less effective 4-4-2) instead. I've no evidence whatsoever of course, but it makes sense in my head. Been saying this as well myself recently. Obviously I have nothing to base it on but it makes sense if we're desperate to give him a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Reasonably convinced at this stage that his contract is heavily incentivised through goalscoring bonuses. Part of the compromises made during his free transfer because of the potential knee problem, hence the addition of get-out clause and so on. Seems like the kind of thing we'd do because we're terrified of losing money like we did on Owen, and fits with the rumours of him 'only' being on about £40k basic. When he joined the club he wasn't going to be playing anywhere but up front, so it made perfect sense at the time. That changed when we bought Cisse and stuck Ba out wide. He now wants to play through the middle at all times and Pardew is scared of losing him so sacrifices Cisse (or plays the less effective 4-4-2) instead. I've no evidence whatsoever of course, but it makes sense in my head. Been saying this as well myself recently. Obviously I have nothing to base it on but it makes sense if we're desperate to give him a new contract. We've got quite a lot to base it on actually. Shola came on and played wide AGAIN today, how much more proof do we need? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 the most predictable link in history http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9748181/QPR-preparing-January-transfer-window-bid-for-Newcastle-United-striker-Demba-Ba.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Reasonably convinced at this stage that his contract is heavily incentivised through goalscoring bonuses. Part of the compromises made during his free transfer because of the potential knee problem, hence the addition of get-out clause and so on. Seems like the kind of thing we'd do because we're terrified of losing money like we did on Owen, and fits with the rumours of him 'only' being on about £40k basic. When he joined the club he wasn't going to be playing anywhere but up front, so it made perfect sense at the time. That changed when we bought Cisse and stuck Ba out wide. He now wants to play through the middle at all times and Pardew is scared of losing him so sacrifices Cisse (or plays the less effective 4-4-2) instead. I've no evidence whatsoever of course, but it makes sense in my head. Makes sense because he is shooting as soon as he gets the ball and is never really interesting in passing it. He doesn´t even look up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 @MsiDouglas: Quotes from Demba Ba interview with Canal + in France emerging... Mentions Arsenal interest. Won't exactly calm speculation abt his future. Not suprised....mercenary prick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Demba Ba on Canal Plus : "Arsenal are one of these teams who make you dream" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Shit storm incoming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Demba Ba : "Press know Arsenal needs another striker. And also know about my release clause. And make they own mind about it" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It'll be all somebody else's fault again I'd imagine. He was misquoted / one of his minders said it, you heard it here first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Demba Ba on Canal Plus : "Arsenal are one of these teams who make you dream" Fucking nightmares more like. Has he seen them this season the greedy prick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/RPGwc.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Sooner we move past him the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 If he's saying shit like that then I won't be displeased when he leaves at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 To be honest I think it was always going to come down to keeping one of cisse or ba, footballs changed a lot and I don't see many teams with 2 out and out goal scorers unless they can play deeper like rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 So nothing in the quotes to make him look like a mercenary then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I'm not sure he's said too much wrong from what I can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Bunch of nowt IMO. Based purely on the above, he clearly admires Arsenal (who wouldn't, exactly? every one of our players would go there) but says it's speculation based on the press knowing they need a striker and he's got a buyout clause, and that nothing is ongoing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Sooner we move past him the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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