Demba Ba (now retired)

[Guest Tyson]

It made for uncomfortable reading when it happened the first time, when da rival homie Cisse lowered their Bro's colors. If his weekly salary at chelse is incentive/performance based it might not sit well with Dakar's very own Turtle & Co, if missing out on a few k here & there. Da Boyz down in Dakar will have some cheek if they go ballistic on twitter again, when Da Man sits in the shadow of Chelsea's big Summer signing ie. of Falcao's calibre.

 

 

[johnnypd]

It made for uncomfortable reading when it happened the first time, when da rival homie Cisse lowered their Bro's colors. If his weekly salary at chelse is incentive/performance based it might not sit well with Dakar's very own Turtle & Co, if missing out on a few k here & there. Da Boyz down in Dakar will have some cheek if they go ballistic on twitter again, when Da Man sits in the shadow of Chelsea's big Summer signing ie. of Falcao's calibre.

 

 

 

he's from france fwiw

[mikejaxer]

Ba sulked when playing on the left wing.

But yet I've yet to see Cissé doing the same on the right wing, when he scored he looked happy.

 

[Tiresias]

Ba sulked when playing on the left wing.

But yet I've yet to see Cissé doing the same on the right wing, when he scored he looked happy.

 

Cisse actually enjoys playing football rather than just doing it as a career I suspect

[Cajun]

Tbf Ba played a whole half season out there and I don't remember him moaning after half a dozen games (happy to be proven wrong).

[Jack Flash]

Ba sulked when playing on the left wing.

But yet I've yet to see Cissé doing the same on the right wing, when he scored he looked happy.

 

 

Remove the clichéd conjecture from this thread and there'd be 8 pages left.

[toon25]

It made for uncomfortable reading when it happened the first time, when da rival homie Cisse lowered their Bro's colors. If his weekly salary at chelse is incentive/performance based it might not sit well with Dakar's very own Turtle & Co, if missing out on a few k here & there. Da Boyz down in Dakar will have some cheek if they go ballistic on twitter again, when Da Man sits in the shadow of Chelsea's big Summer signing ie. of Falcao's calibre.

 

 

 

he's from france fwiw

 

[Disco]

Tbf Ba played a whole half season out there and I don't remember him moaning after half a dozen games (happy to be proven wrong).

 

Typical Jon, ignoring the body language to suit his agenda. Sickening.

[Wullie]

Tbf Ba played a whole half season out there and I don't remember him moaning after half a dozen games (happy to be proven wrong).

 

He did ultimately though didn't he, despite the fact that the team had performed much better with him out there, which is what got Pardew stuck between a rock and hard place because he didn't want to lose him and made promises that he should not have been keeping.

 

And how many times, Jon? Ba has played the majority of his career in that position, as opposed to Cisse who has never played there. It's akin to us signing Remy to play there (as we are hoping to), then when he gets here, takes the huff and says he'll only play down the centre.

[Cajun]

[Tiresias]

He moaned cos his lack of goals reduced the likelihood of anyone coming in for him. It did obviously and as soon as he was scoring again he jumped as soon as he could before he got shunted out wide again.

[Cajun]

Tbf Ba played a whole half season out there and I don't remember him moaning after half a dozen games (happy to be proven wrong).

 

He did ultimately though didn't he, despite the fact that the team had performed much better with him out there, which is what got Pardew stuck between a rock and hard place because he didn't want to lose him.

 

And how many times, Jon? Ba has played the majority of his career in that position, as opposed to Cisse who has never played there.

 

Not going to get into this debate again, the point was you can't say Cisse never moaned and Ba did when Cisse hasn't played there long enough to moan about it.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

The thing with Ba, when he set off on his football journey, because of his background, family and religion, money would have been at the forefront of his thoughts just as much as say prestige and trophies. Now he has two of those things. Lots of money and the prestige of playing for the European champions. Trophies are likely to follow too so you can sort of understand why he told him self "you've done it", because he has.

 

And I don't begrudge him his move or comments one bit because you can see that he is not all about money, certainly from a selfish greedy perspective, he has friends and family and the more money he earns, the better their lives too. We would all do the same. I know I would. What he has done is score goals and put in a shift on the pitch for whoever he has played for so then can be no real complaints.

 

I say good luck to him and while I'm devastated we have lost such a player from our team, I'm not devastated from an emotional point of view. Although that's more about how emotionally detached I am from the game and players these days.

 

By the way, his religion is all about the family and putting one's own interests, i.e. medals etc. to one side for the greater good (or God as it is), and of course his family and friends. In theory anyway! So... when presented with the chance of earning lots of money, he really ought to take it from that perspective never mind anything else.

 

Alas, he gave his all here, scored lots of goals, helped us back into Europe and to 5th in the League. He cost us nowt and by all accounts was on a very average pay packet given he was our main man and one of the league's top scorers. I imagine someone like Sess at the mackems earned more. Wes Brown most certainly does.

 

Hopefully we will have inserted some kind of clause where he cannot play against us this season and if he does, I do hope the fans do not boo him. If he took advantage of the clause then our club took advantage of Ba's position back when we signed him.

[Guest Tyson]

It made for uncomfortable reading when it happened the first time, when da rival homie Cisse lowered their Bro's colors. If his weekly salary at chelse is incentive/performance based it might not sit well with Dakar's very own Turtle & Co, if missing out on a few k here & there. Da Boyz down in Dakar will have some cheek if they go ballistic on twitter again, when Da Man sits in the shadow of Chelsea's big Summer signing ie. of Falcao's calibre.

 

 

 

he's from france fwiw

 

Yeah, i know he's a Parisian. 

 

 

I just picked up on something in Hamady Ba's tweets. As a collective his crew (about five of the coat hangers) loosely refer to themselves as something like Dakar #Entourage - lads who profess to have not forgotten their roots, as loose as they may be.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

The thing with Ba, when he set off on his football journey, because of his background, family and religion, money would have been at the forefront of his thoughts just as much as say prestige and trophies. Now he has two of those things. Lots of money and the prestige of playing for the European champions. Trophies are likely to follow too so you can sort of understand why he told him self "you've done it", because he has.

 

and you know this because..?

[Wullie]

Tbf Ba played a whole half season out there and I don't remember him moaning after half a dozen games (happy to be proven wrong).

 

He did ultimately though didn't he, despite the fact that the team had performed much better with him out there, which is what got Pardew stuck between a rock and hard place because he didn't want to lose him.

 

And how many times, Jon? Ba has played the majority of his career in that position, as opposed to Cisse who has never played there.

 

Not going to get into this debate again, the point was you can't say Cisse never moaned and Ba did when Cisse hasn't played there long enough to moan about it.

 

And if he did? I'd say he has more of a right to complain than Ba.

 

Let's hope Debuchy doesn't decide he wants to play somewhere other than right back, by your logic we'll just have to put him where he wants.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Tbf Ba didn't play on the left for more than a handful games, pretty much like Cisse has....

 

Difference being is that Ba is competent out there and we won games and Cisse looks lost out there.

[Cajun]

Tbf Ba played a whole half season out there and I don't remember him moaning after half a dozen games (happy to be proven wrong).

 

He did ultimately though didn't he, despite the fact that the team had performed much better with him out there, which is what got Pardew stuck between a rock and hard place because he didn't want to lose him.

 

And how many times, Jon? Ba has played the majority of his career in that position, as opposed to Cisse who has never played there.

 

Not going to get into this debate again, the point was you can't say Cisse never moaned and Ba did when Cisse hasn't played there long enough to moan about it.

 

And if he did? I'd say he has more of a right to complain than Ba.

 

Let's hope Debuchy doesn't decide he wants to play somewhere other than right back, by your logic we'll just have to put him where he wants.

 

We signed him as a striker and as far as I am concerned he played his best football there for us by far.

 

If he has played most of his career out wide, not seen much of Rouen, Mouscron or 1899 Hoffenheim if I'm honest so can't confirm either way then fair play for him going so long out of position. I'm fairly sure a player will know his best position and again from what he showed here then he was correct. I doubt many footballers would play in a position where they don't perform nearly as well in tbh.

 

We signed Debuchy as a right back, what a ridiculous logic.

[Minhosa]

Fucking sickening seeing all the smug cunts he knocks around with smiling all over twitter. Today is their lottery win.

 

I'm willing to bet he'll be away elsewhere by the end of next season having sat on the bench for much of next season when their new gaffer comes in and, inevitably, brings a huge signing in the form of a forward with him.

 

Anelka Mk2.

[Fenham Mag]

Fucking sickening seeing all the smug cunts he knocks around with smiling all over twitter. Today is their lottery win.

 

I'm willing to bet he'll be away elsewhere by the end of next season having sat on the bench for much of next season when their new gaffer comes in and, inevitably, brings a huge signing in the form of a forward with him.

 

Anelka Mk2.

 

Agreed. Hangers on fucking sicken me.

[Wullie]

We signed Ba knowing he could play either as a striker or a wide forward and was very effective in either role.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

The thing with Ba, when he set off on his football journey, because of his background, family and religion, money would have been at the forefront of his thoughts just as much as say prestige and trophies. Now he has two of those things. Lots of money and the prestige of playing for the European champions. Trophies are likely to follow too so you can sort of understand why he told him self "you've done it", because he has.

 

and you know this because..?

 

Without wanting to come over as a racist etc. its a common theme among African footballers or those whose families hail from that part of the world to prioritize money for want of a word over most things and rightly so. Demba Ba has a huge family by all accounts and lots of friends who he is very close to. When he went to Germany he basically gave lots of his family and some friends jobs to look after his affairs.

 

The religion bit, now this is an area I actually know a little about as believe it or not wor lass is a Muslim and while they are not taught to revere money or the material world, quite the opposite in fact, they are taught the value of it  to never put one's own interests ahead of family, friends, God and what matters most. Again, if you have an ability that allows you to be really well paid, you take the money even if it means you might not get as many games or win as many trophies because personal glory isn't the done thing, looking after friends, family and charity is. Hence why there are so many 'hangers on' with Ba.

 

In reality, they are people who he looks out for and tries to help and that's admirable in my opinion. It clashes with our own views and how we as fans feel things should be of course but at the end of the day, we are both the same. I want what's best for my club and Ba wants what is best for him and his friends and family.

 

At least he worked for his bit and earned it so again, I don't begrudge him one bit. Its the likes of Michael Owen who I begrudge. Fraudsters. There is nothing fraudulent about Ba or those like him. I actually find it quite refreshing to be honest.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

f***ing sickening seeing all the smug c***s he knocks around with smiling all over twitter. Today is their lottery win.

 

I'm willing to bet he'll be away elsewhere by the end of next season having sat on the bench for much of next season when their new gaffer comes in and, inevitably, brings a huge signing in the form of a forward with him.

 

Anelka Mk2.

 

Anelka gets a lot of stick but he did an interview a few years back and was very candid about his career and money. He basically said it would be bad of him to turn down so much money for the sake of games, trophies etc. when he has so many friends and family that relies on his income, or those who could benefit from his income. Again, he delivered on the pitch so how can he be called a mercenary.

 

Michael Owen and those like him are the real culprits. People who don't give one toss about anyone or anything other than themselves.

 

The way you have to look at the likes of Ba is they are a business and his so-called hangers on are shareholders so naturally when their business floats on the SE (a move to Chelsea), they are going to celebrate.

 

Its not particularly endearing to people like me and you who fund all this and earn far less, but again, give me that over cunts like Owen and even people like Alan Smith.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Of course, everyone is the same. Should have done my own research.

[Minhosa]

f***ing sickening seeing all the smug c***s he knocks around with smiling all over twitter. Today is their lottery win.

 

I'm willing to bet he'll be away elsewhere by the end of next season having sat on the bench for much of next season when their new gaffer comes in and, inevitably, brings a huge signing in the form of a forward with him.

 

Anelka Mk2.

 

Anelka gets a lot of stick but he did an interview a few years back and was very candid about his career and money. He basically said it would be bad of him to turn down so much money for the sake of games, trophies etc. when he has so many friends and family that relies on his income, or those who could benefit from his income. Again, he delivered on the pitch so how can he be called a mercenary.

 

Michael Owen and those like him are the real culprits. People who don't give one toss about anyone or anything other than themselves.

 

The way you have to look at the likes of Ba is they are a business and his so-called hangers on are shareholders so naturally when their business floats on the SE (a move to Chelsea), they are going to celebrate.

 

Its not particularly endearing to people like me and you who fund all this and earn far less, but again, give me that over cunts like Owen and even people like Alan Smith.

 

This the same Michael Owen who bought all of his family houses in the same street?

 

The same Michael Owen who this week was at a Cancer Hospice?

 

One player should have one agent allowed to represent them.

 

Ba and his 3 million hangers are a poison to the game as he's clearly only motivated by money. I'd wager he'll end up with a further 5 or so clubs before the end of his career, all of which he'll join for the signing on fee to fund his mates.

 

Surely everyone one of us is responsible for his/her own lives and his pals shouldn't have to rely on the only fucker amongst them with a talent to fund there lives?