Zero Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not his fault for the second, but deserve lots of sticks for the first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 It would be boring if we all thought the same. I had him as a contender for MOM. I thought that too! Desperately harsh criticising him for the second IMO, hell even the first given the quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I dont think he needs replacing as a player but as captain yes Tiote done a great job last season, it was a teerible desicon to tske it back off him Colo needs big strong commanding player beside him and we might see him close to his best again For the first goal yeaterday he didnt trust williamson thats why he went out of positon. I thought it was more jammats fault as he switched off and let silva walk through way too easy The second goal people are being way too harsh, he was unlucky where the ball landed after kruls save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 What's with the Coloccini hatred on here? Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 What's with the Coloccini hatred on here? Ridiculous. Why? Explain? Colo's not looked like a good defender for at least 2 years now. He's awful in the air now, he still can't handle a simple ball over the top (it's actually embarrassing watching him struggle with this), he's all over the shop positionally and seems to have lost a yard of pace, when he didn't even have pace to begin with. He actively tried to leave the club yet has still retained the armband, and as others have said he rarely communicates with the rest of the back four....that job is left to Willo who's got one of the softest voices I've ever heard I'd keep him as backup, but I don't want to see him as our first-choice CB anymore, especially as one with the captaincy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I don't like his partnership with Williamson one bit, especially when facing pacey forwards. Williamson and MYM were a much better combination, and even Saylor and Colo looked a better partnership. For me, the only centre back we have with any recovery pace is Yanga-Mbiwa, so he should play whenever he's available. Williamson to come in when facing an aerial threat, Colo to play otherwise (mainly because he's much better/more intelligent on the ball) and Saylor only in case of emergency. With Yanga-Mbiwa more or less frozen out we're absolutely desperate for another center back who is both commanding in the air and has decent recovery pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Colo and MYM advocated again. Quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Colo and MYM advocated again. Quality. Sigh. When facing no aerial threat I specifically stated. Whilst you're at it, care to explain your ludicrous comment the other day in the Papiss Cisse thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Have people forgotten that we were playing the best team in the country with the best attacking options yesterday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Colo and MYM advocated again. Quality. Well if you're allowed to constantly decry it then surely other people are allowed to constantly suggest it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Have people forgotten that we were playing the best team in the country with the best attacking options yesterday? That maybe so but the errors for both goals were schoolboy stuff and can easily happen against other teams and probably will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Colo and MYM advocated again. Quality. Well if you're allowed to constantly decry it then surely other people are allowed to constantly suggest it? They are. I'd just like to think that type of stupidity exists outside of our fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Have people forgotten that we were playing the best team in the country with the best attacking options yesterday? That maybe so but the errors for both goals were schoolboy stuff and can easily happen against other teams and probably will. And have, time after time after time last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Have people forgotten that we were playing the best team in the country with the best attacking options yesterday? That maybe so but the errors for both goals were schoolboy stuff and can easily happen against other teams and probably will. Of course, every team has a fresh Aguero to bring on as a sub Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 What did 'a fresh Aguero' have to do with Coloccini's ludicrous starting position? Problem is, people have forgotten what a good CB actually is. They stop goals happening first and look good on the ball second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm not sure the positioning for the first goal was that bad, it was natural to assume that Dzeko couldn't get the ball back across goal. The backheel was superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Unbelievable how people can defend a defence which has conceded over 100 goals the last two seasons. None of the starters apart from Janmaat ( I reserve judgment for now) have proven consistently they are not good enough. It's not going to magically change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I love sweeping statements about people's opinions me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm not sure the positioning for the first goal was that bad, it was natural to assume that Dzeko couldn't get the ball back across goal. The backheel was superb. Of course it was man, you can't have two CBs being dragged to the ball it's schoolboy stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 What did 'a fresh Aguero' have to do with Coloccini's ludicrous starting position? Problem is, people have forgotten what a good CB actually is. They stop goals happening first and look good on the ball second. Positioning? He was with him. Why not blame Aarons for waiting on the ball at the halfway line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I thought the positioning for the first goal was horrible personally, he needed to trust Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Still like Coloccini though and fully blame Alan Pardew for our defence being shit, individual errors or not. It'll be Pardew, the bloke's a fucking black hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I agree with some of the Colo criticism. He seems to have obtained a free pass from a lot of people but personally I think his football has been consistently costly for us over the past year. At times he was excellent against City but he's almost becoming Bramble-esque. I don't know if that's a little too harsh on the lad yet I still find it hard to accept keeping someone captain when they've made it so clear they want to leave at certain stages. I suppose we lack obvious candidates for a replacement though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 We simply cannot forget that he cannot control his wife either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I thought the positioning for the first goal was horrible personally, he needed to trust Williamson. One of his problems is he doesn't seem to trust anyone around him. He's always covering the left back or his CB partner, but that's also what makes him good. He did a lot of good work yesterday as well as being involved in the goals conceded. Fact is though, because we spend so much time in our own half we are always going to concede goals as the defence is always under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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