TheGuv Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 There was no point where this was a formal interview though, there's no off the record or on the record. Elliot has to be smart enough to not say damning s*** when talking to a random fan at a night club. Once he's said it it's fair game imo, he has to watch what he says where ever and whenever, which he failed to do here. The fans deserve to know if one of their players is accepting mediocrity and slagging off a club legend. And this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 There was no point where this was a formal interview though, there's no off the record or on the record. Elliot has to be smart enough to not say damning s*** when talking to a random fan at a night club. Once he's said it it's fair game imo, he has to watch what he says where ever and whenever, which he failed to do here. The fans deserve to know if one of their players is accepting mediocrity and slagging off a club legend. No doubt about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Elliot is in the public eye and can't insult fans and expect there to be no coverage of it, or be upset if there is. It's not exactly phonetapping if he's volunteering these opinions to strangers he meets on a night out ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I think you could argue that it is an unethical thing to do. I would probably draw the line at writing an article based on that conversation. If it is an accurate account of the conversation though, and Elliot is given a right to reply, then I think it can be justified. There's also a fairly robust public interest defence, given the response it has generated. Oh, and Elliot shouldn't be such a big dafty. Don't think it can be justified, myself. Really makes me feel uneasy seeing stuff like this being "published" on the internet. When I call people to do interviews with them, there is a clear and defined moment when things become on the record and I cannot - and will not - use anything outside of that time-frame, even though I am rolling tape well before that moment. Really poor form to publish this conversation on the internet, especially when it has such strong opinions about the club, its employees, and its supporters. You've put an employee of the club in a very precarious position based on a conversation he had with you in a nightclub. Unjustifiable to post it on website like TrueFaith under the guise of an article. If this is a trap for me then I'm in, those were my feelings pretty much exactly. Not a trap. As someone who writes articles for a reputable news organization, "articles" like this really get under my skin. If this creates a shit-storm for Elliott, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some legal action. This serious libel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 For the last time, this was NOT a professional fucking article in a professional, pre-discussed setting agreed upon by both parties. This was two drunk dudes talking in a fucking club and the other one simply has an internet connection and the capacity to transcribe what occured. Fuck's sake, man. If you're a professional journalist, how can this fact escape you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I think you could argue that it is an unethical thing to do. I would probably draw the line at writing an article based on that conversation. If it is an accurate account of the conversation though, and Elliot is given a right to reply, then I think it can be justified. There's also a fairly robust public interest defence, given the response it has generated. Oh, and Elliot shouldn't be such a big dafty. Don't think it can be justified, myself. Really makes me feel uneasy seeing stuff like this being "published" on the internet. When I call people to do interviews with them, there is a clear and defined moment when things become on the record and I cannot - and will not - use anything outside of that time-frame, even though I am rolling tape well before that moment. Really poor form to publish this conversation on the internet, especially when it has such strong opinions about the club, its employees, and its supporters. You've put an employee of the club in a very precarious position based on a conversation he had with you in a nightclub. Unjustifiable to post it on website like TrueFaith under the guise of an article. If this is a trap for me then I'm in, those were my feelings pretty much exactly. Not a trap. As someone who writes articles for a reputable news organization, "articles" like this really get under my skin. If this creates a s***-storm for Elliott, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some legal action. This serious libel. You're actually surprising me here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I agree there is grounds for libel / slander, no doubt. Can't you sue practically anyone for even tweeting negative things about you? I'm sure it's valid in any civil court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 This is getting silly now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If he said it there's absolutely no grounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If he said it there's absolutely no grounds That's the only bone of contention, he can simply deny it or say his words were 'twisted' or 'taken out of context,' though I doubt Rob Elliot knows what those words even mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Haaaaaaaa. Was spitting feathers at work reading it, with nee idea it was TheGuv. Don't see owt wrong with it. Elliot could've easily told him to fuck off and not said anything, like many footballers do in night clubs. He's a fucking shit keeper who would lucky to be backup at a Championship club, never mind us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Did anyone else actually hear this Guv? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Absolutely, bang on job, The Guv. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I can't see what Elliott or the guy that wrote the article has done wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I can't see what Elliott or the guy that wrote the article has done wrong Rob Elliott, a nobody only at a PL club because we're a joke, has slated Kevin Keegan. He has implied that we can't do any better than 8th or 9th. At what stage, reading the article, did you come to the conclusion he had done nothing wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 No probs here with what The Guv has done. Elliott should have kept his gob shut. Guv = good lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Elliot has been a bit naive but if it wasn't an official interview, it shouldn't have been published in it's current form or maybe his identity should have been hidden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Not surprised he has stuck up for Pardew like. Pardew got him a contract and sporadic game time at a Premiership club. I wouldn't put it on the Internet myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Did anyone else actually hear this Guv? Nope. My mate was talking to Shola though who bought him some beers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtm_92 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 absolutely disgraceful comments, but elliot will back pardew all the way along with others of course and they will not be shipped out of the club in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 What a fucking wanker. '8th or 9th is our level', your level is league fucking 1 you arse hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 8th or 9th is our level, while we have people like him and Pardew at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 http://www.reddit.com/r/NUFC/comments/230hlj/what_was_said_when_newcastle_keeper_rob_elliot/ Some of these responses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Next time have your mate film it on his phone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Tbh it's very believable and very tragic that our own players are up Pardew's arse. Elliot and Woodman are both Pardew's mates from Charlton. They'd not be at the club if it weren't for him. Jobs for the boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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