Dave Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 If the intention is to change formation, why haven't we been working on it all pre-season? We played 4-2-3-1 a fair bit didn't we? No doubt 4-4-2 is very much in the mind as well though. A lot depends on the quality of this striker we get. If people do stay fit and perform to their level then Barton won't be missed too much. Still sad to lose yet another favourite though. Only Colo and Tiote remain. Playing one up front and still looking for a good striker doesn't really stack up with Ba being our top striker and Carroll's replacement. Unless we're going to play him in the three? You asked why we hadn't been trying other formations in pre-season, I pointed out that we had done. In terms of this, though, surely any new striker bought for good money is technically "Carroll's replacement"? They'll become our "best striker" by default, basically. Currently it's Ba because he's all we've brought in up there. I can't honestly say I know what Pardew's plans are though. Ben Arfa's injury has knacked things again. No doubt he was a shoe-in playing a VDV role off a striker. Aye, I guess the farcical pre-season events didn't help. My point is I'm far from convinced about this change in formation/game plan business. Seems to me that people (including Pardew) are just trying to justify the sales by fannying around with our 'best side' to suit who's still here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Vuckic to step up to the plate. You know it makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Just give Vuckic and Sammy more games, we won't be signing another midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Crazy Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Vuckic to step up to the plate. You know it makes sense. Aye, can sell him at a profit next summer. YES! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Replacement? http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2009/5/1/1241199794759/Mike-Ashley-001.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Replacing an outgoing player? :lol: Good one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith1__ Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 SWP? NO! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Replacement? http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2009/5/1/1241199794759/Mike-Ashley-001.jpg How many monitors have almost been destroyed by that picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 "The board" will have seen Ryan Taylor's performances and deemed him as an ideal replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Atleast we dont have to deal with that whole having a squad nonsense. Aslong as our first subs are kids, lets put all our dependence on them. Where could that possibly go wrong ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Give it a year and Raylor will be playing every outfield position available. At once. Probably still beat the mackems like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 If the intention is to change formation, why haven't we been working on it all pre-season? We played 4-2-3-1 a fair bit didn't we? No doubt 4-4-2 is very much in the mind as well though. A lot depends on the quality of this striker we get. If people do stay fit and perform to their level then Barton won't be missed too much. Still sad to lose yet another favourite though. Only Colo and Tiote remain. Playing one up front and still looking for a good striker doesn't really stack up with Ba being our top striker and Carroll's replacement. Unless we're going to play him in the three? You asked why we hadn't been trying other formations in pre-season, I pointed out that we had done. In terms of this, though, surely any new striker bought for good money is technically "Carroll's replacement"? They'll become our "best striker" by default, basically. Currently it's Ba because he's all we've brought in up there. I can't honestly say I know what Pardew's plans are though. Ben Arfa's injury has knacked things again. No doubt he was a shoe-in playing a VDV role off a striker. Aye, I guess the farcical pre-season events didn't help. My point is I'm far from convinced about this change in formation/game plan business. Seems to me that people are just trying to justify the sales by fannying around with our 'best side' to suit who's still here. You're probably not far wrong. He was certainly in my first XI currently. There is now absolutely no buffer for one of Marveaux or Obertan not being really good from here on. Pace on both flanks sounds good in theory, but only Jonas has proven his quality here and I'm far from convinced he'll improve if played further forward in a legitimate 4-2-3-1. 4-4-1-1 will probably better describe it, but then you're back to having Barton on the right really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 No one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Oliver Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Rob Elliott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Dont need a outright replacement if we go 4-3-3, Tiote, Cabaye and Marveaux in the middle backed up by Gosling, Haris, Abeid, Guthrie, then you have a striker hopefully a new one flanked by 2 of Obetan, Jonas, Arfa, Ba, Sammy and Best moving around rotating positions. If we do go 4-3-3 and if hell freezes over and a replacement is to be signed, i would hope its more of a central midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 It'll be Samylis Gosthrietan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Davide Santon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Davide Santon Hope so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Obertan probably is :l Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I think we'll try to get Barnetta on the cheap in January when he only has 6 months left on his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon_Crazy Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I think we'll try to get Barnetta on the cheap in January when he only has 6 months left on his contract. Then sell him in the summer? Profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Buying a "replacement" now for Barton would just push the likes of Marveaux, Obertan, Gosling & Vuckic further down the pecking order. I'm happy with the squad depth in midfield. As Rich said, a leader at the back would be my preference rather than a new midfielder or winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Barton being replaced by anyone would be bad news for one forum member. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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