Interpolic Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I want a better strikeforce than we have currently - it's fucking woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ba is a proven goalscorer in a top flight league as well as a good record in this one in the same vein as what i refer to as the 'Nolan and Barton argument' if he's so proven and so reliable, why were we the best club in for him on a free? Why were Liverpool the only club in for Enrique at £6m? I think he was worth a lot more than £6m and Arsenal could definitely do with a left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I want a better strikeforce than we have currently - it's fucking woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ba is a proven goalscorer in a top flight league as well as a good record in this one in the same vein as what i refer to as the 'Nolan and Barton argument' if he's so proven and so reliable, why were we the best club in for him on a free? Why were Liverpool the only club in for Enrique at £6m? I think he was worth a lot more than £6m and Arsenal could definitely do with a left back. thats not really the same mate, my question was why were we the best option for him? Enrique could feasibly view Liverpool as a better option for him than Arsenal at the minute, we dont know that Arsenal were never interested, just like we dont know who was interested in Ba. surely a proven, reliable goal scorer would have better options than us when he's going for nothing? just playing devils advocate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ba is a proven goalscorer in a top flight league as well as a good record in this one in the same vein as what i refer to as the 'Nolan and Barton argument' if he's so proven and so reliable, why were we the best club in for him on a free? Why were Liverpool the only club in for Enrique at £6m? I think he was worth a lot more than £6m and Arsenal could definitely do with a left back. Depending on which reports you believe, Arsenal and Barcelona were in for him at the last minute, weren't they? I think Liverpool are pretty much as good a bet as Arsenal this year anyway, there's a feel good factor there and at Arsenal it's the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 That Rennes goal was pretty special. No idea what the keeper was playing at mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTom Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Was just subbed , Brest were really poor but he looked good whenever he got the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Was just subbed , Brest were really poor but he looked good whenever he got the ball. Aye was pretty good.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I'd hope the local media are ready with pens poised to have a go at the regime if the run up to Wednesday and the day itself turns out to be disappointing as we all expect. I won't hold my breath on them having a go though. It'll be more sycophantic arselicking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ba is a proven goalscorer in a top flight league as well as a good record in this one in the same vein as what i refer to as the 'Nolan and Barton argument' if he's so proven and so reliable, why were we the best club in for him on a free? Why were Liverpool the only club in for Enrique at £6m? I think he was worth a lot more than £6m and Arsenal could definitely do with a left back. thats not really the same mate, my question was why were we the best option for him? Enrique could feasibly view Liverpool as a better option for him than Arsenal at the minute, we dont know that Arsenal were never interested, just like we dont know who was interested in Ba. surely a proven, reliable goal scorer would have better options than us when he's going for nothing? just playing devils advocate I don't know what I am supposed to say? That he isn't a proven goalscorer? Why did Marveaux choose us? Is he shit? What makes Ba any different to other forwards who have scored lots of goals in other leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Actually come around really quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Pathetic isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Pathetic isn't it? There's AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS left man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Actually come around really quickly. I've even took Wednsesday off, well the week actually, to sit there like a complete plank and watch the worlds best set of knashers that are David Craig's, telling me feck all, all day long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Pathetic isn't it? There's AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS left man! Over 96 hours left, plenty of time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Been a long time since this club had a proven goalscorer. Carroll arguably wasn't even one himself. Would be nice to get someone who has an impressive record of scoring goals. El Hamdoui who is interesting Blackburn has scored a lot in Holland, and is available, but not sure his style necessarily fits. Not really the quickest. Don't really know who we could realistically get that is quick and who is a proven scorer a la Gameiro. We're linked with Papiss Demba Cisse, but it seems unlikely. Wednesday night is going to be interesting. Frightening scenario really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Actually come around really quickly. I've even took Wednsesday off, well the week actually, to sit there like a complete plank and watch the worlds best set of knashers that are David Craig's, telling me feck all, all day long. 'We're getting word that Tiote is heading to Stamford Bridge after a £40m offer was accepted in the last few minutes' *Tiote is sold with 20 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that Rob Elliott's transfer to Newcastle may be on again. Keep watching as this develops' *5 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that a second bid for Charlton's Rob Elliott believed to be around £101k was rejected. This deal will not be going through in time.' *Window slams shut* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I have actually contemplated taking Wednesday off. I want to be disappointed LIVE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Actually come around really quickly. I've even took Wednsesday off, well the week actually, to sit there like a complete plank and watch the worlds best set of knashers that are David Craig's, telling me feck all, all day long. 'We're getting word that Tiote is heading to Stamford Bridge after a £40m offer was accepted in the last few minutes' *Tiote is sold with 20 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that Rob Elliott's transfer to Newcastle may be on again. Keep watching as this develops' *5 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that a second bid for Charlton's Rob Elliott believed to be around £101k was rejected. This deal will not be going through in time.' *£15m bid in for Adam Johnson* 5 minutes later.. *Window slams shut* Fyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Fuck Wednesday, I'm taking Thursday off to catch Olivier Bernard re-signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Actually come around really quickly. I've even took Wednsesday off, well the week actually, to sit there like a complete plank and watch the worlds best set of knashers that are David Craig's, telling me feck all, all day long. 'We're getting word that Tiote is heading to Stamford Bridge after a £40m offer was accepted in the last few minutes' *Tiote is sold with 20 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that Rob Elliott's transfer to Newcastle may be on again. Keep watching as this develops' *5 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that a second bid for Charlton's Rob Elliott believed to be around £101k was rejected. This deal will not be going through in time.' *Window slams shut* I'm going to put you over my knee young man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I dont know if this has been posted but I found an interesting report on Roux when he was a Liverpooltarget. Seems hes a great prospect but might need time to settle in. Compared to Guivarch... http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/liverpool-target-nolan-roux-is-half-guivarch-half-papin-says-a-french-scout/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Is Liverpool target Nolan Roux the new Papin? Or the next Guivarc'h? As a respected scout gives his verdict Reds will surely be hoping its more the former than the latter. In a summer packed with tedious transfer speculation surrounding the on-off-on-off sagas of Cesc Fabregas and Carlos Tevez, it was a pleasant surprise that Liverpool were this week linked with an €8m swoop for little-known Brest striker Nolan Roux. Liverpool sports director Damien Comolli obviously knows the French market well, but with Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez already at the club – not to mention Dirk Kuyt, Maxi Rodriguez, and at time of writing, David N’Gog, Joe Cole and Milan Jovanovic also on the books – where would Roux fit in? We asked a French football scout who has watched Roux in action for his thoughts. How good is Nolan Roux? I saw him play his first match for Brest, when he had just signed on loan from Lens. It was against Rennes in summer 2009, in a tiny stadium and with practically no-one watching, and he impressed me straightaway. He was clever with the ball, quite fast, decent distribution, agile with his movement despite not having huge sprinting speed, he used space well and had a good shot on him. I wouldn’t say he is extremely gifted in terms of technique, but he is a good all-round player. What’s his best position? At Brest he played as the main striker through the middle, but he has the brain to play as the second forward. I think he might have played wide a few times too. He does drift out wide, sometimes a bit too often, but that shows a willingness to work the spaces and keep defenders moving. He’s a complete player, and his greatest asset is his shooting – he tried his luck on goal more than any other player in Ligue 1 and has a strong shot on him. He’s two-footed which is also pretty rare. Any faults? Despite being tall, he’s not brilliant in the air. It’s not a major problem but he’s not going to win flick-ons if teams play long-ball to him. There are some doubts about his physique: in the last two seasons, which are his only two in the first-team, he had spells on the sidelines, and he is very slender. But he’s not afraid to get stuck into opponents, he’s had a few scraps with defenders this season, he’s not afraid to get stuck in. Because he’s still young, he runs around a lot on the pitch and wants to do a bit of everything – that’s not always a good thing. I can’t see Nolan Roux taking the Premier League by storm next season, especially when you consider what happened to Marouane Chamakh last year. He only scored six goals last season. Well, last season was his first in Ligue 1. He started the season really well, and of his six goals, five were in the first half of the season, and then he missed three months through injury. He struggled more in the second half of the season, probably because Brest were not doing as well then. They were newly-promoted and in the end, did well to stay up. In his first season at this level, you have to forgive some inconsistency. Who does he play like? A French magazine asked exactly the same question and came up with an interesting answer: that he was part Jean-Pierre Papin, and part Stephane Guivarc’h. It’s clever because it shows his strengths: he’s a scorer, he says he loves scoring goals and is obsessed by them. But there’s also a lot more to his game. Even though the Guivarc’h comparison is not necessarily a good one in England, in France he was huge, a guy who could take the ball from defence, hold it up, bring others into play, and create chances too. So he can do that too. Is he good enough for Liverpool? I think he’d be better suited to a mid-table side like Aston Villa, Fulham or Sunderland, somewhere where he would get more games. The problem about playing in England is that every team thinks they can qualify for Europe, so there is always a lot of pressure on young players to start scoring as soon as they arrive. If he goes to Liverpool, he will have even less time, as the demands will be so great. On top of that, he won’t be a starter, and at 23, he needs to start games. If he’s not playing between the ages of 23 and 25, then it becomes very hard for him. I think the kind of club he should go to is a Bordeaux, a bigger club than Brest, that will give him room to improve and, most importantly, to play. Schalke are also interested in him, and their profile seems a better fit than Liverpool. There would be less pressure there, and more opportunity to develop. How does he compare to David N’Gog? He is a better prospect than N’Gog was at the same age. N’Gog was not playing for PSG when he moved to Liverpool, and though PSG is bigger than Brest, at least Brest are playing in Ligue 1. But is he much more than that? I can’t see Nolan Roux taking the Premier League by storm next season, especially when you consider what happened to Marouane Chamakh last year. Roux and Chamakh are different players, but Chamakh had much more experience, a bigger aura, was a more established player and is much more technical than Roux, and even he struggled at times in his first season in England. So these things take time, and at 23, Roux is at the point of his career where it could go either way. He doesn’t want to make the wrong move now. His next decision is a big one for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Actually come around really quickly. I've even took Wednsesday off, well the week actually, to sit there like a complete plank and watch the worlds best set of knashers that are David Craig's, telling me feck all, all day long. 'We're getting word that Tiote is heading to Stamford Bridge after a £40m offer was accepted in the last few minutes' *Tiote is sold with 20 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that Rob Elliott's transfer to Newcastle may be on again. Keep watching as this develops' *5 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that a second bid for Charlton's Rob Elliott believed to be around £101k was rejected. This deal will not be going through in time.' *Window slams shut* ugh. The last few deadline days have been -tastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Actually come around really quickly. I've even took Wednsesday off, well the week actually, to sit there like a complete plank and watch the worlds best set of knashers that are David Craig's, telling me feck all, all day long. 'We're getting word that Tiote is heading to Stamford Bridge after a £40m offer was accepted in the last few minutes' *Tiote is sold with 20 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that Rob Elliott's transfer to Newcastle may be on again. Keep watching as this develops' *5 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that a second bid for Charlton's Rob Elliott believed to be around £101k was rejected. This deal will not be going through in time.' *Window slams shut* I'm going to put you over my knee young man Kinky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Four days left. :lol: Actually come around really quickly. I've even took Wednsesday off, well the week actually, to sit there like a complete plank and watch the worlds best set of knashers that are David Craig's, telling me feck all, all day long. 'We're getting word that Tiote is heading to Stamford Bridge after a £40m offer was accepted in the last few minutes' *Tiote is sold with 20 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that Rob Elliott's transfer to Newcastle may be on again. Keep watching as this develops' *5 minutes to go* 'We're hearing that a second bid for Charlton's Rob Elliott believed to be around £101k was rejected. This deal will not be going through in time.' *Window slams shut* I'm going to put you over my knee young man Kinky Ooooo ello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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