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He's OK breaking from deep as he gets a bit of time, the way we play with our widemen he'd be awful receiving the ball (often with his back to goal) with few options around to him. Not to mention his often poor final ball.

 

I do believe he's a good player, I don't believe he'll ever become one here.

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I cant believe what i'm reading. He did do ok in possession, wasn't that bad going forward either, but defensively was abysmal. Play him there all you like but we will concede goals like a fucking sieve.

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  On 08/02/2014 at 17:33, Smal said:

Judging by today's performance he'd probably do better playing where Sissoko was.

 

You know what, i think you're right.

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  On 08/02/2014 at 17:31, bimpy474 said:

I cant believe what i'm reading. He did do ok in possession, wasn't that bad going forward either, but defensively was abysmal. Play him there all you like but we will concede goals like a f***ing sieve.

In typical Pardew fashion, it was his first ever match in that position (that I know of as a professional) and he was being made to track the likes of Hazard, Willian, and Oscar. It was not exactly a League Cup match against Gillingham when you try new things.

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  On 08/02/2014 at 17:34, Segun Oluwaniyi said:

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I cant believe what i'm reading. He did do ok in possession, wasn't that bad going forward either, but defensively was abysmal. Play him there all you like but we will concede goals like a f***ing sieve.

In typical Pardew fashion, it was his first ever match in that position (that I know of as a professional) and he was being made to track the likes of Hazard, Willian, and Oscar. It was not exactly a League Cup match against Gillingham when you try new things.

 

Fair comment, but even basic defending seem go missing with him.

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  On 08/02/2014 at 17:52, SanToon said:

I thought he played well, he's not a DM but he recycled possession well, and that pass to sissoko was quality

Santon could play at any position on the pitch outside of striker and keeper and look fine, because he is a good footballer and a good athlete. I thought he looked fine today. The problem will still be a certain intelligence, aggression, and confidence lacking from his game. I don't know what has happened, but he has become very passive imo, and this trait has become more and more pervasive since his drop in form around the turn of the new year last season. He is around the age where he should becoming more and more sure of himself as a top level player, but is instead playing scared and in danger of losing his position. As with many of our players, I hate what has happened to him from his arrival until now.

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  On 08/02/2014 at 17:52, SanToon said:

I thought he played well, he's not a DM but he recycled possession well, and that pass to sissoko was quality

Santon could play at any position on the pitch outside of striker and keeper and look fine

 

...except LB, RB, LW, RW, CD, No.10 and DM maybe.

 

Somebody has told him he is an AM and dead ball expert.  Probably Pardew believing Mourinho's  BS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I do wonder, had Tiote been playing, whether that first goal would even happen. Santon's inability to get back goal side, which would have only taken a tiny bit of effort, cost us that goal in my opinion.

 

I feel if he wasn't going to play left back then he should have been in one of the wide roles like people thought he would be pre-match. He could have helped double up on Hazard, instead of having Hatem doing that job.

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  On 10/02/2014 at 11:49, BrettNUFC said:

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Didn't think he was very good at CM. Failed experiment.

 

Away to Chelsea :lol: Majority of DM's in the league probably don't look very good at Stamford Bridge the way Chelsea overrun your midfield.

 

It's not exactly polemic to suggest he's not CM!!!!! He just didn't offer any protection at all. I don't think we'd have won if Gosling had played instead.

 

But by the same token. Why not play Marveaux if you're convinced we're going to lose? At least SM gets 90 minutes to get some fitness in. Might even discover a bit of desire and apply himself..

 

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  On 10/02/2014 at 11:49, BrettNUFC said:

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Didn't think he was very good at CM. Failed experiment.

 

Away to Chelsea :lol: Majority of DM's in the league probably don't look very good at Stamford Bridge the way Chelsea overrun your midfield.

He's not arsed when the right winger is goal side of him at LB, he doesn't care at CM/DM. He won't put a foot in. He won't count. A passenger always.

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  On 10/02/2014 at 11:56, Lotus said:

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Didn't think he was very good at CM. Failed experiment.

 

Away to Chelsea :lol: Majority of DM's in the league probably don't look very good at Stamford Bridge the way Chelsea overrun your midfield.

 

It's not exactly polemic to suggest he's not CM!!!!! He just didn't offer any protection at all. I don't think we'd have won if Gosling had played instead.

 

But by the same token. Why not play Marveaux if you're convinced we're going to lose? At least SM gets 90 minutes to get some fitness in. Might even discover a bit of desire and apply himself..

 

 

Just find it strange that you'd only give him one chance away to Chelsea to shine and because he didn't, say it's failed. I think he was alright like considering it was his first game there for us and against the calibre of players up against him. Defensively poor again like he is at left back but he was good on the ball and helped us build attacks. If nobody was back fit again for Wed, I’d have no problems with Santon having another stint in the middle. I'd personally prefer Marv to be given a chance but it's not looking likely, would have done himself a favour if he hadn't of missed the great chance at the end.

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  On 10/02/2014 at 12:02, BrettNUFC said:

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Didn't think he was very good at CM. Failed experiment.

 

Away to Chelsea :lol: Majority of DM's in the league probably don't look very good at Stamford Bridge the way Chelsea overrun your midfield.

 

It's not exactly polemic to suggest he's not CM!!!!! He just didn't offer any protection at all. I don't think we'd have won if Gosling had played instead.

 

But by the same token. Why not play Marveaux if you're convinced we're going to lose? At least SM gets 90 minutes to get some fitness in. Might even discover a bit of desire and apply himself..

 

 

Just find it strange that you'd only give him one chance away to Chelsea to shine and because he didn't, say it's failed. I think he was alright like considering it was his first game there for us and against the calibre of players up against him. Defensively poor again like he is at left back but he was good on the ball and helped us build attacks. If nobody was back fit again for Wed, I’d have no problems with Santon having another stint in the middle. I'd personally prefer Marv to be given a chance but it's not looking likely, would have done himself a favour if he hadn't of missed the great chance at the end.

 

Unless i've missed something i don't expect Santon to be a regular at CM for us for the rest of the season so it's, at best, a moot point. 

I'm not sure he should be in the side at all tbh.

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Santon was marking Hazard but let him get away from him for the first goal on saturday.

It was nothing to do with Hazard being an exceptional player, it was simply a case of Santon ball watching and suddenly realizing he had let Hazard get away from him.  By the time Santon caught up with Hazard it was already too late as the ball was nestling in the back of the net.  Schoolboy error stuff as far as I'm concerned.

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