KaKa Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Italian defenders are pretty tough, well the better ones anyway. Not sure what was seen in him at a young age to think he was a defender. Especially as he's pretty technically gifted, and could likely have been developed in a number of other positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Well i'm not surprised by two out of three Am I Santon sympathiser or enabler? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Well i'm not surprised by two out of three Am I Santon sympathiser or enabler? It's a struggle to defend anyone associated with the club these days. Bimpy on a rampage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Well i'm not surprised by two out of three Am I Santon sympathiser or enabler? Neither, just not very good at judging football Joking by way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 My honest opinion was that he was put into the side to play some sort of DM role. He did not track Hazard into the box, he let Hazard get the shot away and Hazard scored. He then once again looked OK carrying the ball up the pitch from time to time, again had his standard 0 end-product. His corners, free kicks etc were nothing memorable. He did nothing for me in that role. He's a LB, and a make-shift RB. Nothing more. None of this play Santon on the wing stuff works for me as he doesn't really put in a good cross, 1 out of his 35 shots look threatening, and he's simply a pretty decent dribbler of the ball before he predictably cuts in side, loses possession and then casually jogs back into defense, where we look caught-out and many times, concede goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Well i'm not surprised by two out of three Am I Santon sympathiser or enabler? It's a struggle to defend anyone associated with the club these days. Bimpy on a rampage. I refer you to my answer to Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Well i'm not surprised by two out of three Am I Santon sympathiser or enabler? Neither, just not very good at judging football Joking by way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 In all seriousness i actually think it might not be a bad idea to give him a go in CM, just give him a proper DM to do the defending. Let him help defend but go forward more and as he looked promising imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 My honest opinion was that he was put into the side to play some sort of DM role. He did not track Hazard into the box, he let Hazard get the shot away and Hazard scored. He then once again looked OK carrying the ball up the pitch from time to time, again had his standard 0 end-product. His corners, free kicks etc were nothing memorable. He did nothing for me in that role. He's a LB, and a make-shift RB. Nothing more. None of this play Santon on the wing stuff works for me as he doesn't really put in a good cross, 1 out of his 35 shots look threatening, and he's simply a pretty decent dribbler of the ball before he predictably cuts in side, loses possession and then casually jogs back into defense, where we look caught-out and many times, concede goals. What about the pass to Sissoko? That 1 pass was nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 My honest opinion was that he was put into the side to play some sort of DM role. He did not track Hazard into the box, he let Hazard get the shot away and Hazard scored. He then once again looked OK carrying the ball up the pitch from time to time, again had his standard 0 end-product. His corners, free kicks etc were nothing memorable. He did nothing for me in that role. He's a LB, and a make-shift RB. Nothing more. None of this play Santon on the wing stuff works for me as he doesn't really put in a good cross, 1 out of his 35 shots look threatening, and he's simply a pretty decent dribbler of the ball before he predictably cuts in side, loses possession and then casually jogs back into defense, where we look caught-out and many times, concede goals. What about the pass to Sissoko? Majestic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Though arguably a case of needs must, I hate to see a guy who has spent the overwhelming majority of his career as a full back, bastardised and played in Central Midfield. Just don't see how this is going to help Santon recover his form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 In all seriousness i actually think it might not be a bad idea to give him a go in CM, just give him a proper DM to do the defending. Let him help defend but go forward more and as he looked promising imo. That was my feeling as well basically. As a proper holding player he's not that much use as he lacks aggression, can't tackle that well and doesn't work hard enough to track runs. Sounds strange consider he's a fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I can't forgive his awful attempt of a clearance vs Sunderland, or his wayward passing that have led to counter attack goals, and his woeful tracking. He's in the side to play LB or RB or DM, he needs to do that shit. He doesn't do that well, had 1 good ball - that doesn't justify or make "better" anything else for me. He should be miles better based on his size, pace and technical ability but his mental lapses are costly...they lead to goals, and at the moment we aren't scoring any goals to nullify those mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 In all seriousness i actually think it might not be a bad idea to give him a go in CM, just give him a proper DM to do the defending. Let him help defend but go forward more and as he looked promising imo. That was my feeling as well basically. As a proper holding player he's not that much use as he lacks aggression, can't tackle that well and doesn't work hard enough to track runs. Sounds strange consider he's a fullback. Well playing him there will soon see if he can pick that stuff up. He's young and learning, you never know it could work out quite well. Clutching at straws as i maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 He needs an arm round him, some coaching and some application. Then he ought to be alright at left-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I think the most frustrating part is that the majority agree he's got something, I really think he has the tools to succeed but he's regressing and its worrying. He's a very elegant footballer, adn one who can pick a pass and has decent feet. Impossible, Pardew told us not one player has got worse under him, they have all improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I think the most frustrating part is that the majority agree he's got something, I really think he has the tools to succeed but he's regressing and its worrying. He's a very elegant footballer, adn one who can pick a pass and has decent feet. Impossible, Pardew told us not one player has got worse under him, they have all improved. You just can't help yourself, Bimpy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I think the most frustrating part is that the majority agree he's got something, I really think he has the tools to succeed but he's regressing and its worrying. He's a very elegant footballer, adn one who can pick a pass and has decent feet. Impossible, Pardew told us not one player has got worse under him, they have all improved. You just can't help yourself, Bimpy I never said it like, Pardle did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 That first 20 minutes rivalled Cacapa's v Pompey. Dire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 That first 20 minutes rivalled Cacapa's v Pompey. Dire. I daresay it was as bad as Haidara's v Liverpool, if not worse.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheik The Room Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Just awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Rightly hauled off. Been turboshite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Needs to sit out a few games and take stock of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Absolute turboshit all season, how he's still getting a game is beyond me like. Living on his reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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