Realistic Transfer Targets

[Ketsbaia]

Suspect the bulk of our transfer targets will be 2018 contract enders such as:

 

Spain - https://www.transfermarkt.com/la-liga/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/ES1/plus/?jahr=2018

 

Germany - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/1-bundesliga/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/L1/jahr/2018/plus/1

 

Premier League - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/GB1/jahr/2018/plus/1

 

Serie A. - https://www.transfermarkt.com/serie-a/endendevertraegeliste/wettbewerb/IT1/plus/?jahr=2018

 

Ligue Un - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ligue-1/endendevertraege/wettbewerb/FR1/plus//galerie/0?jahr=2018&ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&altersklasse=alle&land_id=0&yt0=Show

 

And here it is: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-newcastle-target-players-out-12981504

 

[mighty__mag]

Its all well targeting players with 12 months, But other clubs probably more attractive clubs will be doing the same.

 

Cabaye was a good buy in this method, he wasnt massively known outside france but made a big impact here and then attracted a big move. Its all so we can pay peanuts and profit.

[Ikon]

Don't think Cabaye's contract was about to run out (?), he had a release clause. I could be wrong about the time he had left on it though.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

Kyle Naughton?

[Menace]

We swapped Nolan for Cabaye.... and made a profit. Mental tbh.

[mighty__mag]

Don't think Cabaye's contract was about to run out (?), he had a release clause. I could be wrong about the time he had left on it.

 

Possibly it was a release clause. But its typical Carr/Charnley  bargains. Sissoko was about to run out and bought for around 2m sold for 30m. How does this help Rafa if they sell his best players from under him? He will not stick around operating like this.

If he doesn't have total control on player recruitment, im sure he will be off.

[Dave]

Depends what Ashley wants out of this?

 

I think Rafa will want a kitty but he need to be aware he must build this, £100million gets you a chane of staying up, that is scary. £1 billion should challenge top 4, those numbers are amazing but not far off.

 

I predict Ashley with spend 60-80million and if Rafa doesnt deem it enough then he will leave, Rafa needs to be realistic here though, however he holds all the cards.

 

Rafa has developed a soft spot for the fans though, i feel he will stay and have a crack at this, he is hooked.

 

A billion to challenge top four

 

Aye, that's only 20 £50m players.  You should design metro routes, man.

 

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Just to put that in perspective, Man City have spent £1.1bn since they were taken over.

 

How many years ago was that?

 

[Figures 1-0 Football]

Tottenham's side against Arsenal at the weekend cost them £108.97m (according to transfermarkt) in transfer fees (starting 11, not including subs).

 

People claiming we need to spend £100m to just be competitive in that league are just talking pap, as for £1bn

[Skeletor]

A lot of those players weren't bought during this TV money boom though. Players who were once around £5m now go for just under £20m.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Tottenham's side against Arsenal at the weekend cost them £108.97m (according to transfermarkt) in transfer fees (starting 11, not including subs).

 

People claiming we need to spend £100m to just be competitive in that league are just talking pap, as for £1bn

Spurs are the epitome of being a squad more than a team, like. More than any other team in the league imo, they have two great or very good quality players for every position, except for Sissoko who obviously cost them £30m

[Figures 1-0 Football]

A lot of those players weren't bought during this TV money boom though. Players who were once around £5m now go for just under £20m.

 

Is that true though? PL spending has been on a steady incline since 2012. It didn't dramatically rise this season at all like, other than the norm.

(This graphic doesn't include January of this season, as it was done before then. But even adding the spend from January on, it isn't a huge increase at all)

 

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/8F5A/production/_90989663_total_spend_10years.png

[ponsaelius]

Tottenham's side against Arsenal at the weekend cost them £108.97m (according to transfermarkt) in transfer fees (starting 11, not including subs).

 

People claiming we need to spend £100m to just be competitive in that league are just talking pap, as for £1bn

Spurs are the epitome of being a squad more than a team, like. More than any other team in the league imo, they have two great or very good quality players for every position, except for Sissoko who obviously cost them £30m

 

I dunno about that, to be honest. The fullback positions certainly, and Dier can cover a lot of places, but actually they lack depth at striker, CB and out wide. I'd argue that they're more of a fantastic functioning team than having great strength in depth.

[leffe186]

A lot of those players weren't bought during this TV money boom though. Players who were once around £5m now go for just under £20m.

 

Presumably it includes Alli, Trippier, Davies, Aldeweireld, Wanyama, Dier. All bought over the last couple of years for very reasonable amounts. Eriksen, Vertonghen and Lloris were bought a couple of years earlier for reasonable amounts, and Kane is home-grown. That just leaves Son who fits your profile.

 

Not that I disagree with your basic point, it's bloody hard to get these players for reasonable amounts. Not impossible though.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Whenever I see Son he doesn't seem to get the plaudits that you'd expect. Really good player.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

Whenever I see Son he doesn't seem to get the plaudits that you'd expect. Really good player.

 

[leffe186]

Tottenham's side against Arsenal at the weekend cost them £108.97m (according to transfermarkt) in transfer fees (starting 11, not including subs).

 

People claiming we need to spend £100m to just be competitive in that league are just talking pap, as for £1bn

Spurs are the epitome of being a squad more than a team, like. More than any other team in the league imo, they have two great or very good quality players for every position, except for Sissoko who obviously cost them £30m

 

I dunno about that, to be honest. The fullback positions certainly, and Dier can cover a lot of places, but actually they lack depth at striker, CB and out wide. I'd argue that they're more of a fantastic functioning team than having great strength in depth.

 

Think our depth at CB is pretty good tbh - Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Dier, then Wimmer and Cameron Carter-Vickers, with Davies and Wanyama capable of stepping in in an emergency. You can't really quibble too much with that.

 

Striker is an obvious issue, although I still have hopes that Janssen will develop into the role. Other than that, it's only really Son. Wide - well it depends upon what you mean. Our true wide players are the full-backs, and we've arguably got the best group in the league. If you mean wingers, then it's N'Koudou, Lamela, and Son - but we don't use wingers. Main problem is that Lamela has missed the entire season.

[leffe186]

Tottenham's side against Arsenal at the weekend cost them £108.97m (according to transfermarkt) in transfer fees (starting 11, not including subs).

 

People claiming we need to spend £100m to just be competitive in that league are just talking pap, as for £1bn

 

You're conflating two different questions though, I think.

 

Our team has been built over several years, including players from our youth team. It's possible to build a squad to compete that doesn't cost a huge amount of money if you do so over an extended period of time. That's not the problem you face.

 

You have one or two transfer windows to build a squad that is competitive in the league - and by competitive, I presume you mean capable of mid-table next year. Some of you seem to feel you need seven or eight players to get to that stage. I doubt that's the case, but let's say you need five players. 50M sounds like a reasonable amount to lay out. A couple of players for 15M, one for 10M, a couple for 5M. You should have the income to cover pretty decent wages.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Off the top of my head, over the last 10 years you've sold Berbatov, Modric, and Bale (anyone else?) for crazy money for each era as well.

[nemtizz]

Carrick went for a few bob. £18m according to Wiki. Okay, not that much. Could have sworn it was £25m+.

[Guest firetotheworks]

That was a canny bit at the time iirc, especially for a player in that position.

[Pata]

£18m was a lot in 2006.

[leffe186]

Off the top of my head, over the last 10 years you've sold Berbatov, Modric, and Bale (anyone else?) for crazy money for each era as well.

 

They're the really big ones. Carrick was at the time. For years and years Levy has kept getting solid money for the youth products and mediocre players like Chadli & Paulinho too.

 

Just had a quick look at the net transfer spends last summer. Most teams seemed to end up around 20M (just on fees). With the extra money available, you guys should be able to spend 40-50 with a couple of sales, shouldn't you?

[triggs]

Tottenham's side against Arsenal at the weekend cost them £108.97m (according to transfermarkt) in transfer fees (starting 11, not including subs).

 

People claiming we need to spend £100m to just be competitive in that league are just talking pap, as for £1bn

Spurs are the epitome of being a squad more than a team, like. More than any other team in the league imo, they have two great or very good quality players for every position, except for Sissoko who obviously cost them £30m

 

I dunno about that, to be honest. The fullback positions certainly, and Dier can cover a lot of places, but actually they lack depth at striker, CB and out wide. I'd argue that they're more of a fantastic functioning team than having great strength in depth.

 

Think our depth at CB is pretty good tbh - Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Dier, then Wimmer and Cameron Carter-Vickers, with Davies and Wanyama capable of stepping in in an emergency. You can't really quibble too much with that.

 

Striker is an obvious issue, although I still have hopes that Janssen will develop into the role. Other than that, it's only really Son. Wide - well it depends upon what you mean. Our true wide players are the full-backs, and we've arguably got the best group in the league. If you mean wingers, then it's N'Koudou, Lamela, and Son - but we don't use wingers. Main problem is that Lamela has missed the entire season.

Wimmer is a shocking footballer IMO

[Guest firetotheworks]

Off the top of my head, over the last 10 years you've sold Berbatov, Modric, and Bale (anyone else?) for crazy money for each era as well.

 

They're the really big ones. Carrick was at the time. For years and years Levy has kept getting solid money for the youth products and mediocre players like Chadli & Paulinho too.

 

Just had a quick look at the net transfer spends last summer. Most teams seemed to end up around 20M (just on fees). With the extra money available, you guys should be able to spend 40-50 with a couple of sales, shouldn't you?

Technically we could spend way, way above and beyond that. What we spend is totally dependent upon the Mike Ashley random number generator. It would be entirely in his nature to give Rafa a much smaller amount to spend than McClaren.