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The general feeling is that Ashley will sell if he receives an offer for the club which gives him his money back, but if he is making a killing off Sports Direct and making between £10 and £20million a year off Newcastle then why would he sell for anything less than a huge over the top offer ?

 

He could be here for the long term !!!!!!!!!

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The general feeling is that Ashley will sell if he receives an offer for the club which gives him his money back, but if he is making a killing off Sports Direct and making between £10 and £20million a year off Newcastle then why would he sell for anything less than a huge over the top offer ?

 

He could be here for the long term !!!!!!!!!

 

Or at least until he devalues the club so much it's no longer worth him using NUFC as his free advertising bandwagon any longer.

 

Either way:  :(

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OzzieMandias

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There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse.

 

I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past.

 

Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot.

 

No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good?

 

How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange.

 

Still going for the man and not for the ball.

 

I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer:

 

If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was.

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There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse.

 

I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past.

 

Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot.

 

No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good?

 

How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange.

 

Still going for the man and not for the ball.

 

I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer:

 

If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was.

 

As a fan it feels like there is nothing else to do: what do you suggest as an alternative?

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There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse.

 

I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past.

 

Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot.

 

No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good?

 

How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange.

 

Still going for the man and not for the ball.

 

I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer:

 

If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was.

 

Acknowledging he was out of his depth and openly putting the club up for sale.

 

Why is your opinion on protests against such an unpopular NUFC tenure diametrically opposed to your opinion when Shepherd was here?

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Its not nufc anynore, well in name only anyway.  Its sports direct fc.  He already changed the name of the stadium once, if he could get away with renaming the team im sure he would do it.

Sad, but true. the club has been hollowed out, a lot of good,loyal staff from behind the scenes have been sacked in recent years and the club is merely a minor part of a bigger company. NUFC are now just part of a larger  money making machine designed to make Ashley and  a few managers richer. As long as people are happy to contribute to that and realise that the club's role as an integral part of this region is diminished and nothing will change as long Ashley remains, then that's up to them.

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AyeDubbleYoo

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The general feeling is that Ashley will sell if he receives an offer for the club which gives him his money back, but if he is making a killing off Sports Direct and making between £10 and £20million a year off Newcastle then why would he sell for anything less than a huge over the top offer ?

 

He could be here for the long term !!!!!!!!!

 

He's not making anything... he's very slowly recovering a load of money he has already had to spend. It's going to a long time before his £10-20m a season is profit.

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I sort of resent the fact that he's taking anything out at all, given everything he has "had to spend" has been because of his own mistakes.

 

Aye I understand that argument. But then again, a lot of what he spent was clearing existing debt, so the 'mistake' was buying us in the first place. Not all of it is because of relegation etc, although it obviously didn't help.

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I sort of resent the fact that he's taking anything out at all, given everything he has "had to spend" has been because of his own mistakes.

 

Aye I understand that argument. But then again, a lot of what he spent was clearing existing debt, so the 'mistake' was buying us in the first place. Not all of it is because of relegation etc, although it obviously didn't help.

 

He was forced to clear the existing debt via another mistake of his (not doing due-diligence).  Amazing how many mistakes he's done.....

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I sort of resent the fact that he's taking anything out at all, given everything he has "had to spend" has been because of his own mistakes.

 

Aye I understand that argument. But then again, a lot of what he spent was clearing existing debt, so the 'mistake' was buying us in the first place. Not all of it is because of relegation etc, although it obviously didn't help.

 

He was forced to clear the existing debt via another mistake of his (not doing due-diligence).  Amazing how many mistakes he's done.....

 

Sure, that's a fact. Just saying that he didn't actually cause the debt, he just didn't know how much of it was there. I don't think that's really that bad.

 

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The general feeling is that Ashley will sell if he receives an offer for the club which gives him his money back, but if he is making a killing off Sports Direct and making between £10 and £20million a year off Newcastle then why would he sell for anything less than a huge over the top offer ?

 

He could be here for the long term !!!!!!!!!

 

Let's say the fans protest and scare him into putting the club up for sale again: do you think there will be any takers this time, considering when it was going for a song no one showed any serious interest?

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I sort of resent the fact that he's taking anything out at all, given everything he has "had to spend" has been because of his own mistakes.

 

Aye I understand that argument. But then again, a lot of what he spent was clearing existing debt, so the 'mistake' was buying us in the first place. Not all of it is because of relegation etc, although it obviously didn't help.

 

He was forced to clear the existing debt via another mistake of his (not doing due-diligence).  Amazing how many mistakes he's done.....

 

Sure, that's a fact. Just saying that he didn't actually cause the debt, he just didn't know how much of it was there. I don't think that's really that bad.

 

 

In business sense, it's about as bad as you get not knowing anything about the liabilities of the business you're buying.  There's a damn good reason why businesses take months in completing take-overs and why accountancy firms get hired for them.

 

He's done very well from Sports Direct, but his management since the day he looked to buy NUFC till today has been one mistake after another.  He's bought the right club for it though, as the fans will still turn up.

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I sort of resent the fact that he's taking anything out at all, given everything he has "had to spend" has been because of his own mistakes.

 

Aye I understand that argument. But then again, a lot of what he spent was clearing existing debt, so the 'mistake' was buying us in the first place. Not all of it is because of relegation etc, although it obviously didn't help.

 

Aye, that was definitely his chief mistake: buying us without doing due diligence was a bit daft.

 

However, I could always defend him in the past because he wasn't taking anything back out, as this was the one thing that I felt would give us half a chance of doing something once we started turning a profit.

 

Now we are turning a profit and he's taking the money back out of the fucking club. It's unreal.

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I sort of resent the fact that he's taking anything out at all, given everything he has "had to spend" has been because of his own mistakes.

 

Aye I understand that argument. But then again, a lot of what he spent was clearing existing debt, so the 'mistake' was buying us in the first place. Not all of it is because of relegation etc, although it obviously didn't help.

 

Aye, that was definitely his chief mistake: buying us without doing due diligence was a bit daft.

 

However, I could always defend him in the past because he wasn't taking anything back out, as this was the one thing that I felt would give us half a chance of doing something once we started turning a profit.

 

Now we are turning a profit and he's taking the money back out of the fucking club. It's unreal.

 

Especially when we need investment on the field.  If he made the club successful again, then I wouldn't mind him start to take it out but not when we've just finished 16th and have a small squad in certain positions.

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If it ends with the £29M - which for some reason he seems desperate to claw back - then I suppose I could just about accept that, but if it carries on beyond this next set of accounts then it would be the final straw for me.

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If it ends with the £29M - which for some reason he seems desperate to claw back - then I suppose I could just about accept that, but if it carries on beyond this next set of accounts then it would be the final straw for me.

 

January transfer window will probably speak for those accounts as well, unless we are wanting to build a cash pile for a rainy day. :lol:

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