nufc4eva Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Newcastle United are owned by an asset stripper, the DoF is an imbecile, and the manager is a mediocrity. Whoaa hold ya horses, the DoF hasn't had the chance to prove he's an imbecile, only had one transfer window, what do you want signings or something. For all you know he may have revamped the whole setup at the club and the ethos throughout is to play tippy tappy barcelone type stuff like his mate Pep had told him about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Or he might be an imbecile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Newcastle United are owned by an asset stripper, the DoF is an imbecile, and the manager is a mediocrity. What assets has he stripped? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Newcastle United are owned by an asset stripper, the DoF is an imbecile, and the manager is a mediocrity. Whoaa hold ya horses, the DoF hasn't had the chance to prove he's an imbecile, only had one transfer window, what do you want signings or something. For all you know he may have revamped the whole setup at the club and the ethos throughout is to play tippy tappy barcelone type stuff like his mate Pep had told him about. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Newcastle United are owned by an asset stripper, the DoF is an imbecile, and the manager is a mediocrity. What assets has he stripped? http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/38/3847c4013eadf16b04b932219b4fe37b/mike_ashley.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Newcastle United are owned by an asset stripper, the DoF is an imbecile, and the manager is a mediocrity. What assets has he stripped? Club shop and merchandise income, sponsorship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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womblemaster Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 `Mike Ashley is notoriously unforthcoming with investors, which is something these big hitters will be unused to. Whether he will be able to maintain this stance is unclear as yet.` is he a shy bairn or just doesnt care? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse. I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past. Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot. No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good? How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange. Still going for the man and not for the ball. I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer: If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was. Acknowledging he was out of his depth and openly putting the club up for sale. Why is your opinion on protests against such an unpopular NUFC tenure diametrically opposed to your opinion when Shepherd was here? Both the personalities and the circumstances have changed. Football has changed, the economy has changed, and Ashley is not Shepherd. Shepherd was vulnerable to being hit in the pocket -- given the tying of loans to season ticket sales, for example, fan unrest had the potential of totally hobbling his already unsteady cash cow and a few chants of "sack the board" would have the effect of getting him to scurry out and blow some more borrowed money on Michael Owen or some such. Now there isn't even a board, and Ashley is too rich to be vulnerable in the same way. Such protests as there have been seem to have had no effect but to make Ashley give up trying to enjoy his ownership of the club, and he's clearly not interested in acquiescing to the wishes of a bunch of people who think he's a "fat cockney rapist". In short, just because one thinks protest is a good idea in one set of circumstances, it doesn't follow that one should think it's always a good idea in any circumstances. Can't believe I'm having to point out something so blindingly obvious, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse. I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past. Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot. No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good? How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange. Still going for the man and not for the ball. I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer: If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was. Acknowledging he was out of his depth and openly putting the club up for sale. Why is your opinion on protests against such an unpopular NUFC tenure diametrically opposed to your opinion when Shepherd was here? Both the personalities and the circumstances have changed. Football has changed, the economy has changed, and Ashley is not Shepherd. Shepherd was vulnerable to being hit in the pocket -- given the tying of loans to season ticket sales, for example, fan unrest had the potential of totally hobbling his already unsteady cash cow and a few chants of "sack the board" would have the effect of getting him to scurry out and blow some more borrowed money on Michael Owen or some such. Now there isn't even a board, and Ashley is too rich to be vulnerable in the same way. Such protests as there have been seem to have had no effect but to make Ashley give up trying to enjoy his ownership of the club, and he's clearly not interested in acquiescing to the wishes of a bunch of people who think he's a "fat cockney rapist". In short, just because one thinks protest is a good idea in one set of circumstances, it doesn't follow that one should think it's always a good idea in any circumstances. Can't believe I'm having to point out something so blindingly obvious, like. Ashley is being asked by some to "engage with fans" but in fairness he tried that in the beginning, both in a formal and informal manner, perhaps even trying too hard some may say, but a section of supporters and self-appointed spokespeople made it very clear they didn't approve and wanted him out. Ashley losing interest in enjoying matches coupled with no realistic buyers is not a good place to be. We either need an interested Ashley or positive new ownership to start moving forward again. Great players, great stadium, great city, massive support. It's all just waiting for someone to make it happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 He didn't really try to engage with the fans at all, he just acted like a clown when he was meant to be the person running the bloody football club. Once he made one too many many fuck-ups there was no going back for him so you should forget about an 'interested Ashley'. He has no interest in what the majority of the fans want, a well run football club built on what we already had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse. I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past. Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot. No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good? How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange. Still going for the man and not for the ball. I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer: If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was. Acknowledging he was out of his depth and openly putting the club up for sale. Why is your opinion on protests against such an unpopular NUFC tenure diametrically opposed to your opinion when Shepherd was here? Both the personalities and the circumstances have changed. Football has changed, the economy has changed, and Ashley is not Shepherd. Shepherd was vulnerable to being hit in the pocket -- given the tying of loans to season ticket sales, for example, fan unrest had the potential of totally hobbling his already unsteady cash cow and a few chants of "sack the board" would have the effect of getting him to scurry out and blow some more borrowed money on Michael Owen or some such. Now there isn't even a board, and Ashley is too rich to be vulnerable in the same way. Such protests as there have been seem to have had no effect but to make Ashley give up trying to enjoy his ownership of the club, and he's clearly not interested in acquiescing to the wishes of a bunch of people who think he's a "fat cockney rapist". In short, just because one thinks protest is a good idea in one set of circumstances, it doesn't follow that one should think it's always a good idea in any circumstances. Can't believe I'm having to point out something so blindingly obvious, like. I don't understand the part in bold, surely wasting money on the likes of Owen was one of the main reasons we got into such a mess. And you supported the actions that had that outcome? Anyway, what is your proposed alternative to the current situation? If people (presumably unlike yourself) are unhappy at the way the club is being operated, how do you suggest they should voice their displeasure in an effective manner that would have a positive effect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 May have been posted but. Shares in the company, which owns Sports Direct.com and Lillywhites stores as well as famous product brands including Slazenger, Dunlop and Lonsdale, have risen 86 percent since the start of the year. The stock yesterday extended its winning run, adding 2.24 percent to 729p, which valued the firm controlled by Newcastle United soccer club owner Mike Ashley at £4.4 billion. After the London session closed, the index compiler FTSE International confirmed that Sports Direct had been promoted into the blue chip FTSE 100 index. http://invezz.com/news/equities/5421-sports-direct-share-price-company-enters-ftse-100 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 May have been posted but. Shares in the company, which owns Sports Direct.com and Lillywhites stores as well as famous product brands including Slazenger, Dunlop and Lonsdale, have risen 86 percent since the start of the year. The stock yesterday extended its winning run, adding 2.24 percent to 729p, which valued the firm controlled by Newcastle United soccer club owner Mike Ashley at £4.4 billion. After the London session closed, the index compiler FTSE International confirmed that Sports Direct had been promoted into the blue chip FTSE 100 index. http://invezz.com/news/equities/5421-sports-direct-share-price-company-enters-ftse-100 Understand why MA is in such a hurry to get his money back. Needs to stay liquid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse. I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past. Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot. No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good? How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange. Still going for the man and not for the ball. I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer: If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was. A protest in our case will make little or no difference to MA's personal conscience, he does effectively hold all the cards with regards to NUFC however that does not mean to say that the/a protest was or would be unsuccessful. What we as fans need to do is to highlight the mismanagement of NUFC and promote our worries and views to the national media, this is where our protests come in to play we need to use them as a vehicle to carry our sorry clubs demise into the national and international view because this is the only way that we will rid ourselves of MA. The knowledge of our demise is out there we just need to promote it and bring it even further into the public light. With this we can give MA a motivation to sell NUFC, he is not going to want bad headlines which could effect his FTSE 100 baby, at the moment he is cozy in bed with NUFC his business uses it as a vehicle to grow profits and he has the benefit of being able to draw money from the club as he pleases. IMO Protests need to be used to highlight our issues and ultimately put us in the shop window for a new owner. We can force MA out but chants of "sack the board" and FCB aren't going to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse. I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past. Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot. No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good? How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange. Still going for the man and not for the ball. I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer: If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was. A protest in our case will make little or no difference to MA's personal conscience, he does effectively hold all the cards with regards to NUFC however that does not mean to say that the/a protest was or would be unsuccessful. What we as fans need to do is to highlight the mismanagement of NUFC and promote our worries and views to the national media, this is where our protests come in to play we need to use them as a vehicle to carry our sorry clubs demise into the national and international view because this is the only way that we will rid ourselves of MA. The knowledge of our demise is out there we just need to promote it and bring it even further into the public light. With this we can give MA a motivation to sell NUFC, he is not going to want bad headlines which could effect his FTSE 100 baby, at the moment he is cozy in bed with NUFC his business uses it as a vehicle to grow profits and he has the benefit of being able to draw money from the club as he pleases. IMO Protests need to be used to highlight our issues and ultimately put us in the shop window for a new owner. We can force MA out but chants of "sack the board" and FCB aren't going to do it. Football club ownership is a very flawed thing nowadays and whether it's an oligarch, a US hedge fund operator, a "sovereign state", or local boy made good like Steve Gibson, it leaves itself open to criticism and fans are seldom totally happy. As a veteran of several Newcastle "anti board" campaigns over decades I don't think we can "force MA out". His position is very different and when he goes it will be pretty much on his terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse. I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past. Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot. No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good? How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange. Still going for the man and not for the ball. I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer: If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was. A protest in our case will make little or no difference to MA's personal conscience, he does effectively hold all the cards with regards to NUFC however that does not mean to say that the/a protest was or would be unsuccessful. What we as fans need to do is to highlight the mismanagement of NUFC and promote our worries and views to the national media, this is where our protests come in to play we need to use them as a vehicle to carry our sorry clubs demise into the national and international view because this is the only way that we will rid ourselves of MA. The knowledge of our demise is out there we just need to promote it and bring it even further into the public light. With this we can give MA a motivation to sell NUFC, he is not going to want bad headlines which could effect his FTSE 100 baby, at the moment he is cozy in bed with NUFC his business uses it as a vehicle to grow profits and he has the benefit of being able to draw money from the club as he pleases. IMO Protests need to be used to highlight our issues and ultimately put us in the shop window for a new owner. We can force MA out but chants of "sack the board" and FCB aren't going to do it. Good post, and some good ideas. A protest campaign needs to be intelligent and well presented. While there might be good reason to be annoyed at Ashley's running of the club, we need an alternative owner on the horizon before we start getting militant otherwise all it will achieve is him taking his money out of the club sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse. I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past. Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot. No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good? How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange. Still going for the man and not for the ball. I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer: If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was. A protest in our case will make little or no difference to MA's personal conscience, he does effectively hold all the cards with regards to NUFC however that does not mean to say that the/a protest was or would be unsuccessful. What we as fans need to do is to highlight the mismanagement of NUFC and promote our worries and views to the national media, this is where our protests come in to play we need to use them as a vehicle to carry our sorry clubs demise into the national and international view because this is the only way that we will rid ourselves of MA. The knowledge of our demise is out there we just need to promote it and bring it even further into the public light. With this we can give MA a motivation to sell NUFC, he is not going to want bad headlines which could effect his FTSE 100 baby, at the moment he is cozy in bed with NUFC his business uses it as a vehicle to grow profits and he has the benefit of being able to draw money from the club as he pleases. IMO Protests need to be used to highlight our issues and ultimately put us in the shop window for a new owner. We can force MA out but chants of "sack the board" and FCB aren't going to do it. Good post, and some good ideas. A protest campaign needs to be intelligent and well presented. While there might be good reason to be annoyed at Ashley's running of the club, we need an alternative owner on the horizon before we start getting militant otherwise all it will achieve is him taking his money out of the club sooner rather than later. Isn't the line "our sorry clubs demise into the national and international view " slightly delusional ? Why would anyone else be particularly interested in our ownership ? Most fans in football bitch about their owners to a greater or lesser extent, and bearing in mind our current players, position and readiness for FFP etc, I doubt many fans in Leeds, Sheffield, Nottingham, Coventry, Wolverhampton, Birmingham, Blackburn, Bolton, Bristol, Portsmouth, Middlesbrough, Glasgow, or anywhere else for that matter, will be too concerned about Newcastle fans' latest grievances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/article/81225/nufc-supporters-unite-in-get-mike-ashley-out-protest-march Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 There have been various protests since Ashley arrived. Have any of them had a positive effect? They've arguably made the situation worse. I seem to remember you being a big fan of protests against the NUFC board in the past. Thanks for the characteristically cheap shot. No answer to my honest question, however. There have been protests. Did you think they did any good? How's it a cheap shot? For people who are unhappy with the direction and stewardship of the club there's little alternative other than to shut up and meekly accept it. Something you weren't prepared to do under the previous regime. Strange. Still going for the man and not for the ball. I'll rephrase my question yet again, in the probably vain hope of actually getting an answer: If you think any of the protests against Ashley have had a positive effect, please tell me what it was. A protest in our case will make little or no difference to MA's personal conscience, he does effectively hold all the cards with regards to NUFC however that does not mean to say that the/a protest was or would be unsuccessful. What we as fans need to do is to highlight the mismanagement of NUFC and promote our worries and views to the national media, this is where our protests come in to play we need to use them as a vehicle to carry our sorry clubs demise into the national and international view because this is the only way that we will rid ourselves of MA. The knowledge of our demise is out there we just need to promote it and bring it even further into the public light. With this we can give MA a motivation to sell NUFC, he is not going to want bad headlines which could effect his FTSE 100 baby, at the moment he is cozy in bed with NUFC his business uses it as a vehicle to grow profits and he has the benefit of being able to draw money from the club as he pleases. IMO Protests need to be used to highlight our issues and ultimately put us in the shop window for a new owner. We can force MA out but chants of "sack the board" and FCB aren't going to do it. Good post, and some good ideas. A protest campaign needs to be intelligent and well presented. While there might be good reason to be annoyed at Ashley's running of the club, we need an alternative owner on the horizon before we start getting militant otherwise all it will achieve is him taking his money out of the club sooner rather than later. Isn't the line "our sorry clubs demise into the national and international view " slightly delusional ? Why would anyone else be particularly interested in our ownership ? Most fans in football bitch about their owners to a greater or lesser extent, and bearing in mind our current players, position and readiness for FFP etc, I doubt many fans in Leeds, Sheffield, Nottingham, Coventry, Wolverhampton, Birmingham, Blackburn, Bolton, Bristol, Portsmouth, Middlesbrough, Glasgow, or anywhere else for that matter, will be too concerned about Newcastle fans' latest grievances. By that i mean, our best chance of getting a new owner is to advertise the fact that we are unhappy with how things are. There is a owner out there somewhere and our best chance of getting one is to bring the club to that person's attention whether they be from a national or international base. My example would be this, Lets say we had a stay away for a live televised home game, Man Utd at home for arguments sake. Well that would be a international message (with the game being watched all over the world), a message that says that we are so unhappy that we are willing to demonstrate whilst playing against the champions of England......we need to prick the mind of the person/s that want to buy and in the mean time will bring unwanted attention to MA. So i suppose my point would be, the idea is to bring ourselves to the attention of a new owner not other football fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I suggested that pages ago. Nothing will happen, people will go to the game regardless if ashely has raped their wife or not. Nowts going to change anytime soon, if ever. He has the nufc brand , hollowed it out and filled it with sports ditect tat. He aint selling anytime soon. why would he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I can see what Southampton, Norwich and Swansea have done with their 60 million quid Telly cash. I wonder what Ashley's done with ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I suggested that pages ago. Nothing will happen, people will go to the game regardless if ashely has raped their wife or not. Nowts going to change anytime soon, if ever. He has the nufc brand , hollowed it out and filled it with sports ditect tat. He aint selling anytime soon. why would he? Ashley's raping people's wives now? He is a fucking wrong'un him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Mentally he is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 He's mentally raping people's wives? I think all owners do that tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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