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We were within touching distance of finishing in the top 4 a couple of seasons back- with an over achieving squad. We had a few big hitters (Ba, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Cabaye) who kept us up there. With our manager there was no way it was sustainable without investment last summer, especially considering those around us strengthened whilst we halted to a standstill. We scouted well in 2011 summer and went from a mid-table team to a top half team. However, for two summers now Ashley has downright refused to invest appropriately- last January doesn't count in my eyes as our season was a bloody wright off by Christmas, which is totally unacceptable, especially considering that we were 'competing' in Europe.

 

With a good manager, quality scouting and sensible investment we could easily break the top 4 imo. Ambition would only propel us to title challengers- look at our support, man! As players have described it, there's a wave of energy and feeling of invincibility at NUFC when things are going well. I cant even remember what that feels like nowadays, though.

It's all about building a strong squad. That will never happen under Ashley. He is a compulsive gambler, and none of his reckless gambles involve building and investing in a strong squad. As long as we sell to buy, value balance sheets over results, and have a spineless puppet as a manager, we will never compete.

 

I can remember, even under SBR, not being bothered when we went a goal down (especially at home) because I just knew we would score at least 2. And most of the time we would.

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shepherd was bollocks like :lol:

 

i'm not letting how bad ashley is cloud my memory of that one little bit...the only f***ing thing he had right was being ambitious, granted i'd like to see a bit more of that now but shepherd was a busted flush when he f***ed off we should all remember that

 

also was it HTT saying he'd 'recognised' his failings when hiring fat sam? :lol: bollocks, we were f***ing broke so he had to go to a manager who could piece together a team from free transfers and journeymen

 

Yep.

 

Not sure what the Shepherd love-in is for, but if he'd stayed around for a few more seasons there was a fair chance that we wouldn't exist today.

 

People seem keen to forget the NOTW stuff etc

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I am sick of this rubbish about how Ashley rescued Newcastle United like some kind of fat cockney saviour.The clubs commercial revenue has plummeted since Ashley took over.

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shepherd was bollocks like :lol:

 

i'm not letting how bad ashley is cloud my memory of that one little bit...the only fucking thing he had right was being ambitious, granted i'd like to see a bit more of that now but shepherd was a busted flush when he fucked off we should all remember that

 

also was it HTT saying he'd 'recognised' his failings when hiring fat sam? :lol: bollocks, we were fucking broke so he had to go to a manager who could piece together a team from free transfers and journeymen

bingo. Lets not start canonizing Shephard just because he was "ambitious" he was a scumbag and how the hell he wormed his way back into the club after the NOTW stuff is sickening. He made off like a bandit from his time at the club and deserves nothing but contempt. Ashley being bad doesn't make anyone else good.

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I am sick of this rubbish about how Ashley rescued Newcastle United like some kind of fat cockney saviour.The clubs commercial revenue has plummeted since Ashley took over.

 

:lol:

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'Cockney' needs to be banned from this thread.

  OK if some people are so  very sensitive to the c word maybe we should just call Ashley a corpulent southern leech.
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He is just like a step dad that has married your mum now its gone sour..but he is refusing to leave because he thinks he now has claim to your house..  eventually he will just be a jilted ex, that day can't come soon enough though.

 

Cant we track how much money he has made from the club and use it as a countdown until he breaks even and fucks off.. 

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'Cockney' needs to be banned from this thread.

  OK if some people are so  very sensitive to the c word maybe we should just call Ashley a corpulent southern leech.

 

I'm not sensitive to it, it's just inaccurate. Who gives a shit where he's from anyway?

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Cant we track how much money he has made from the club and use it as a countdown until he breaks even and f***s off.. 

 

Can do aye, but we need to start it at about -£200m so it could be a long one.

 

Aye the fat fuck is going to make us for his mistakes.

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Cant we track how much money he has made from the club and use it as a countdown until he breaks even and fucks off.. 

 

Its not dropping at the moment so no point.  If he starts taking his initial investment back I'm sure people will keep track and update every year.

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Pardew really should let Kinnear do all teh transfer talking if he has any sense  ( :lol: ) surely beyond easy to let Kinnear hang himself and avoid the blame. Wonder if the club demand he say all that bollocks.

 

He really should have. Didn't need to say anything other than refer the Journos to JFKs mobile number.

The statement sounds like it was written for him but he should never have put his name to it. Disgusting.

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Thing is I'm kinda willing to accept the club putting out crap and making Pardew put his name to it and whatever. I'm not a Pardew fan by a million miles but the club is toxic and doubt any manager not willing to put shit like that out will ever be appointed

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