TRon Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Mort was an integral part of the lies surrounding the KK debacle. Was Mort still around when KK walked out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Mort was an integral part of the lies surrounding the KK debacle. Was Mort still around when KK walked out? Nope. It was Decker by then. I think Mort was only brought in for evidence for KKs contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Wasn't the structure: Mort - Chairman Llambias - Deputy Chairman Wise - DOF Jimenez - VP Player Recruitment? Mort stepped back to his legal practice and Llambias moved up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Forgot about that creepy guy Jeff Vetere, the guy who know people's shoe sizes or some shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 best thing he could do now really is appoint someone to run the club within clearly set boundaries and walk away from it himself entirely not that he'd do it but approach say cortese and ask him to run the club with a set of financial boundaries that don't end up costing him money, within those financial boundaries the chairman can appoint who he likes, sign who he likes etc. it really shouldn't be so hard cortese would come with the added bonus of having history with pardew (?) as well What sacking him? If that's what you mean I'm all for that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 best thing he could do now really is appoint someone to run the club within clearly set boundaries and walk away from it himself entirely not that he'd do it but approach say cortese and ask him to run the club with a set of financial boundaries that don't end up costing him money, within those financial boundaries the chairman can appoint who he likes, sign who he likes etc. it really shouldn't be so hard cortese would come with the added bonus of having history with pardew (?) as well I really don't know why he hasn't done this already. Just employ a proven football person on a decent salary and give him a budget per year to work under. Guess he just has to be hands on with all his companies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Ashley is a control freak, instead of turning up to our biggest game of the season on Saturday he was in Ireland buying up another sportswear company and 50+ shops to add to his empire. There is no way in hell he will leave the club in the total control with a competent person with yearly transfer budgets ect.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Wasn't the structure: Mort - Chairman Llambias - Deputy Chairman Wise - DOF Jimenez - VP Player Recruitment? Mort stepped back to his legal practice and Llambias moved up? I thought Llambias was a cold appointment. I don't recall him being involved during the Chris Mort days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Wasn't the structure: Mort - Chairman Llambias - Deputy Chairman Wise - DOF Jimenez - VP Player Recruitment? Mort stepped back to his legal practice and Llambias moved up? I thought Llambias was a cold appointment. I don't recall him being involved during the Chris Mort days. Just during a hand over period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I get the feeling this guy is just involved with a bunch of other stuff, and doesn't really know what the hell is going on at the club. Problem is, he only employs people he deems his friends, and therefore people he supposedly trusts. Most of these lot are clueless about football though. Really don't think he isn't trying to get players. I think he does provide a budget. Llambias was just a ball busting strong headed roulette spinning punk, that always had to win each deal, while Joe Kinnear was just taking advantage, and getting a free ride. The only time someone sensible was involved was under Mort, and things went okay then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I get the feeling this guy is just involved with a bunch of other stuff, and doesn't really know what the hell is going on at the club. Problem is, he only employs people he deems his friends, and therefore people he supposedly trusts. Most of these lot are clueless about football though. Really don't think he isn't trying to get players. I think he does provide a budget. Llambias was just a ball busting strong headed roulette spinning punk, that always had to win each deal, while Joe Kinnear was just taking advantage, and getting a free ride. The only time someone sensible was involved was under Mort, and things went okay then. Mort was a good communicator and a decent PR man. But it was his strategic review of the club that led to the club implementing a structure that had a DOF and, of course, Dennis Wise getting that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I get the feeling this guy is just involved with a bunch of other stuff, and doesn't really know what the hell is going on at the club. Problem is, he only employs people he deems his friends, and therefore people he supposedly trusts. Most of these lot are clueless about football though. Really don't think he isn't trying to get players. I think he does provide a budget. Llambias was just a ball busting strong headed roulette spinning punk, that always had to win each deal, while Joe Kinnear was just taking advantage, and getting a free ride. The only time someone sensible was involved was under Mort, and things went okay then. Mort was a good communicator and a decent PR man. But it was his strategic review of the club that led to the club implementing a structure that had a DOF and, of course, Dennis Wise getting that role. There wasn't really much wrong with that structure in theory. The appointments however were all wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think the DOF structure is a good one TBH, just putting someone competent in the job seems impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I get the feeling this guy is just involved with a bunch of other stuff, and doesn't really know what the hell is going on at the club. Problem is, he only employs people he deems his friends, and therefore people he supposedly trusts. Most of these lot are clueless about football though. Really don't think he isn't trying to get players. I think he does provide a budget. Llambias was just a ball busting strong headed roulette spinning punk, that always had to win each deal, while Joe Kinnear was just taking advantage, and getting a free ride. The only time someone sensible was involved was under Mort, and things went okay then. Mort was a good communicator and a decent PR man. But it was his strategic review of the club that led to the club implementing a structure that had a DOF and, of course, Dennis Wise getting that role. There wasn't really much wrong with that structure in theory. The appointments however were all wrong. Exactly, so he had one friend that was sound in Mort. The structure was then a good idea, but when he then had to hire people for it, and therefore put more of his friends in the job, the rest of them were all morons. Just hope that he eventually just accepts that he can hire people that he doesn't necessarily know, and they'll do a much better job than his dumb friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 They don't need to replace Kinnear now. They don't want to spend any money and they sold the guy they've been desperate to for the past year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Wasn't the structure: Mort - Chairman Llambias - Deputy Chairman Wise - DOF Jimenez - VP Player Recruitment? Mort stepped back to his legal practice and Llambias moved up? Llambias was appointed Deputy Chairman on 5th May 2008 Mort stepped down on 17th June 2008 as he was on a years secondments from his law firm & Llambias was appointed Managing Director on the same day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'd hate to have LLambias back. The prick was as big a cancer at the club as Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'd hate to have LLambias back. The prick was as big a cancer at the club as Ashley. I agree though there is certainly an argument that says he was starting to perform adequately taking last January's window into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 he was an unlikeable asshole but it did look like he was getting better at it and learning from mistakes and provided an actual direction that while you might not agree with and it certainly could be too strict transfer wise it at least made sense. Whats the direction and vision for the club now? Who's making that kind of decision? Who does Pardew answer to? Who's in charge of the final say on ins and outs now that the morons gone? Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think the DOF structure is a good one TBH, just putting someone competent in the job seems impossible. Particularly when your shortlist is useless cockney pricks who'll accept a pittance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think the DOF structure is a good one TBH, just putting someone competent in the job seems impossible. Particularly when your shortlist is useless cockney pricks who'll accept a pittance. Pittance? I'd happily blag a job as a useless cockney prick for £15 grand a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I can't believe that Kinnear was that bad that some people would consider taking Lambshite back, I seem to remember rumours last year that the only reason the 5 transfers got "over the line" was because Ashley personally stepped in to negotiate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think the DOF structure is a good one TBH, just putting someone competent in the job seems impossible. Particularly when your shortlist is useless cockney pricks who'll accept a pittance. Pittance? I'd happily blag a job as a useless cockney prick for £15 grand a week. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think the DOF structure is a good one TBH, just putting someone competent in the job seems impossible. Particularly when your shortlist is useless cockney pricks who'll accept a pittance. Pittance? I'd happily blag a job as a useless cockney prick for £15 grand a week. ? Isn't that the wage he was reported to be on yesterday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snoopythewriter Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Do the decent thing you cunt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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