Stifler Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 If we do get taken over by Staverley or someone else who wants to make us a force, I wonder if Rafa would turn his attention to someone like Butland. He’s at Stoke but surely he would jump at the chance to come to us with Rafa being backed and building a squad to compete. I’m not sure if hhis distribution skills would be good enough for Rafa, but surely the players like him who are at clubs like Stoke and are being overlooked by the bigger clubs because they want bigger names are the sort of players Rafa will be after and with him having financial backing we may finally be in a position to snap them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 If we do get taken over by Staverley or someone else who wants to make us a force, I wonder if Rafa would turn his attention to someone like Butland. He’s at Stoke but surely he would jump at the chance to come to us with Rafa being backed and building a squad to compete. I’m not sure if hhis distribution skills would be good enough for Rafa, but surely the players like him who are at clubs like Stoke and are being overlooked by the bigger clubs because they want bigger names are the sort of players Rafa will be after and with him having financial backing we may finally be in a position to snap them up. As soon as i started reading your post i was going to mention his distribution being abysmal. I don't think he's the type of keeper Rafa would be after at all. I agree on your point about going after that type of player though, that would be class! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-united-facing-major-tax-11305023 If there was 'any' hope of a buy out I recon it's gone with the Clubs Tax issues. Doesn't sound good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-united-facing-major-tax-11305023 If there was 'any' hope of a buy out I recon it's gone with the Clubs Tax issues. Doesn't sound good. If its to the extent they claim, takeover is the least of the issues, we'll be kicked out of the football league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just HMRC showing that they are going to make things more difficult for us now because we made things difficult for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just HMRC showing that they are going to make things more difficult for us now because we made things difficult for us. *them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 thought the 500m figure was across all the clubs being investigated? Would be much more believable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just HMRC showing that they are going to make things more difficult for us now because we made things difficult for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just HMRC showing that they are going to make things more difficult for us now because we made things difficult for us. *them. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 What have we actually done wrong ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just HMRC showing that they are going to make things more difficult for us now because we made things difficult for us. *them. Thank you. I want to frame it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Never a dull moment at this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 thought the 500m figure was across all the clubs being investigated? Would be much more believable. Has to be, I mean £500m worth of business in the last 10 years for us might be believable (ins and outs). But we've done nowhere near that in just the 3 year period mentioned there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 This talk of a takeover only really got mentioned once Rafa exposed the fact that Ashley hasn't changed his spots by lying again. It's amazing how it never fails to not work. Can just imagine Ashley and his clan laughing about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I just hope this tax issue will lead to the people involved getting punished rather than the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 So Carr real assignment was not to find bargaining deals but potential tax fraud partners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 One thing that doesn't make sense in all this is why the club would want to defraud the tax man by paying high amounts to agents to pass on when they could have paid less on just using one to do a deal? The only way I can see some logic in that is if it was in someway passed back to people involved in the club. Just doesn't seem worth it though. Big risks for minimal gain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 http://www.true-faith.co.uk/true-faith-mike-ashley-and-rangers/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 One thing that doesn't make sense in all this is why would the club would want to defraud the tax man by paying high amounts to agents to pass on when they could have paid less on just using one to do a deal? The only way I can see some logic in that is if it was in someway passed back to people involved in the club. Just doesn't seem worth it though. Big risks for minimal gain. That bit doesn't really surprise me when talking about the club tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-united-facing-major-tax-11305023 If there was 'any' hope of a buy out I recon it's gone with the Clubs Tax issues. Doesn't sound good. If its to the extent they claim, takeover is the least of the issues, we'll be kicked out of the football league. Nevermind the football league, it's feasibly possible the club could leave the atmosphere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 :lol: I seem to remember a few years back when we had the success of picking up Cabaye and the others from France, I can recall something Llambias said along the lines of setting up a network of agents in France to cut the deals for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Re: the piece about Rangers. Wow, what an agent saboteur he was. Not surprising because he has form. For example he was a menace, to Dave Whelan and his/DW's effort to keep JJB afloat & competing with SD, as a sitting member on JJB's board (before eventually absorbing JJB brand, as part of the SD umbrella) Shows how dangerous & manipulative Ashley can be, even as a minor shareholder of the club, in the event of a partial buy-out. Has to be a 100% takeover at the very least, that's before a potential buyer has to pay a premium price (to shed the attachment to SD, and the price Ashley values this association at). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Makes me think this is why Ashley says 'preferred option' would be for an investor. Means he can keep the cream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-united-facing-major-tax-11305023 If there was 'any' hope of a buy out I recon it's gone with the Clubs Tax issues. Doesn't sound good. If its to the extent they claim, takeover is the least of the issues, we'll be kicked out of the football league. Could this whole thing be the reason Ashley all of a sudden wants a "quick sale" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-united-facing-major-tax-11305023 If there was 'any' hope of a buy out I recon it's gone with the Clubs Tax issues. Doesn't sound good. If its to the extent they claim, takeover is the least of the issues, we'll be kicked out of the football league. Could this whole thing be the reason Ashley all of a sudden wants a "quick sale" Possibly but the charges would still follow him and his team, whether they're here or not. The club might get a points deduction or something worse because of their actions but i'm pretty sure they'll face consequence personally. As others have pointed out though, the likelihood of someone wanting to take us over while this is hanging over us are not good. Just another thing to add to the long list of ways in which Ashley and his team of cunts have fucked us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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