Sir Toon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Think of what we've had under Ashley, even Moncur who may be respected as a player and the Fairs Cup we won with him but he doesn't bring much, in my opinion, to the role he has. Keegan with his many good traits as well as knowledge could bring a lot more. It wont happen though but for me it's good to speculate rather than dwell on these past 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Imagine Keegan as DoF over Rafa "now Rafa i know you said you wanted a solid defensive midfielder, but i've signed you 3 strikers" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Can't believe people are on about wanting Keegan back, in whatever capacity, that ship sailed. Time to move on, and with Benitez in full control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I'd rather trust the manager to do the appointing of relevant people in relevant positions, after all its his team... I love KK as much as anyone, but we don't need him in any footballing role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I'd rather trust the manager to do the appointing of relevant people in relevant positions, after all its his team... I love KK as much as anyone, but we don't need him in any footballing role. Exactly this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 No Keegan around please when Rafa is here. I've been a fan of Keegan my entire life and he was the reason I support this club, but Rafa's position right now managing the club top to bottom, inside and outside of the ground is as great as any great managers we've ever had. Any potential investors would already save themselves time and expenses not having to get rid of the current manager and get a big name manager in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I'd love a new owner to seriously invest in the academy and the general structure of the football side underneath the first-team, including women's football, because it has been neglected for so long we are losing our youngsters to the likes of Everton. Rafa has always shown throughout his career that he likes to give youth a chance and if you're good enough, not even big huge money signings won't get in the way which he's not known for anyway. He's no cheque book manager is he. Look at how wellSouthampton's academy has served them and indeed Everton's to an extent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 One thing with KK, which I am certain of, is if you say put him in charge of Man City with their spending power, he would produce a glorious attacking side capable of beating anyone and winning anything because at the end of the day, football is all about scoring more than the opposition and I'd back any KK side to do that even if it wasn't a particularly great side. His football philosophy may be deemed old hat or dated, but for all your stat driven and tactical managers, KK's way will always prove the more successful when it comes to actually winning football matches. Basically give him any of the top teams in this country and they would be free scoring and right up there challenging for honours. All players love to be loved, to be sent out their feeling they are the best and love being allowed to express themselves, especially the better players. That's why Anelka, usually a moody character, enjoyed training so much under KK because it was fun and all about getting him to bang them in on a Saturday. Compare that to what he's said about Wenger in the past and training at Real Madrid for example. Fucking love KK me, the man who got me into football and NUFC and made me believe that do you know what, we can beat anyone, any time, any day, anywhere and fucking convincinly so as well. Coventry rocked up to SJP when we beat them 4-0 Sir Les got his first goal and the then manager said his team-talk was pretty much try and keep the score down. They were beaten and beaten well before a ball was kicked. Fergie when we beat them 5-0 said we were unstoppable that day and the result was inevitable and they actually played well that day, they just couldn't stop our attacking intent and KK's team's insatiable desire to score goals. His side's could defend too, despite the myths. Fake news I believe it's called today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I'd love a new owner to seriously invest in the academy and the general structure of the football side underneath the first-team, including women's football, because it has been neglected for so long we are losing our youngsters to the likes of Everton. Rafa has always shown throughout his career that he likes to give youth a chance and if you're good enough, not even big huge money signings won't get in the way which he's not known for anyway. He's no cheque book manager is he. Look at how wellSouthampton's academy has served them and indeed Everton's to an extent. Wasn't this one of the things Rafa spoke about when he joined? obviously it's not realistic with Ashley but with a new owner you'd hope it comes a reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Knew HTT would go off on one as soon as Keegan was mentioned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Rafa mind is just as special, obviously in a totally different way. He sends his team out, despite the lack of quality, to beat the opposition whether its at home or away or against a bottom side or top side. unlike KK though, he has a poor to average side in comparison. Now imagine if he had a top team or great players to work with... ? Just look at his CV, that tells you what the man can achieve. Under Ashley this is probably as good as it gets and that's mainly down to Rafa. Kind of a waste when you think about it. Its like handing a 90 year old bloke a Ferrari. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Can't believe people are on about wanting Keegan back, in whatever capacity, that ship sailed. Time to move on, and with Benitez in full control. He would be a great ambassador for the club, traveling abroad to meetings with potential sponsors etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Rafa mind is just as special, obviously in a totally different way. He sends his team out, despite the lack of quality, to beat the opposition whether its at home or away or against a bottom side or top side. unlike KK though, he has a poor to average side in comparison. Now imagine if he had a top team or great players to work with... ? Just look at his CV, that tells you what the man can achieve. Under Ashley this is probably as good as it gets and that's mainly down to Rafa. Kind of a waste when you think about it. Its like handing a 90 year old bloke a Ferrari. Rafa could win the CL with Newcastle, and there'd still be a fair few who'd complain about the style in which it was won. Keegan could finish in the Euro places every season and everyone would be ecstatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Can't believe people are on about wanting Keegan back, in whatever capacity, that ship sailed. Time to move on, and with Benitez in full control. He would be a great ambassador for the club, traveling abroad to meetings with potential sponsors etc. In that sense i agree, but nobody should be making footballing decisions but Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I'd love a new owner to seriously invest in the academy and the general structure of the football side underneath the first-team, including women's football, because it has been neglected for so long we are losing our youngsters to the likes of Everton. Rafa has always shown throughout his career that he likes to give youth a chance and if you're good enough, not even big huge money signings won't get in the way which he's not known for anyway. He's no cheque book manager is he. Look at how wellSouthampton's academy has served them and indeed Everton's to an extent. Wasn't this one of the things Rafa spoke about when he joined? obviously it's not realistic with Ashley but with a new owner you'd hope it comes a reality. I always thought Liverpool had a good structure, but when he rocked up at Anfield he was disappointed and got stuck into that side of the club to try and change things for the better. Here, well, I imagine a local boys club team would give our youngsters a game. Its amateur at every level below the first-team, facilities, structure, coaching, development, programmes etc. Rafa has changed things or tried to, but he cannot make the changes needed when the club value personal like they value SD employees. Needs major investment. I'd rather we threw say 20m at that side of the club than on any single player for the first-team. Unless we get a Man City type owner, the only real tangible way to success is by developing our own top-class players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Rafa mind is just as special, obviously in a totally different way. He sends his team out, despite the lack of quality, to beat the opposition whether its at home or away or against a bottom side or top side. unlike KK though, he has a poor to average side in comparison. Now imagine if he had a top team or great players to work with... ? Just look at his CV, that tells you what the man can achieve. Under Ashley this is probably as good as it gets and that's mainly down to Rafa. Kind of a waste when you think about it. Its like handing a 90 year old bloke a Ferrari. Rafa could win the CL with Newcastle, and there'd still be a fair few who'd complain about the style in which it was won. Keegan could finish in the Euro places every season and everyone would be ecstatic Well, I would never complain, I'm old enough and cynical enough now to accept any kind of success regardless of how its achieved (outside of cheating of course) even if that means buying the bloody league. However, Rafa's football or his style isn't my cup of tea and never will be. I'd probably enjoy finishing say 5th with a KK team than finishing 2nd with a Rafa team. Obviously winnings something cannot be bargained with. Take when we finished 5th under that fraudster of a c*** Pardew, I didn't enjoy any of that season and honestly thought all the stars had aligned to get so high up in the table. We were awful to watch in the main and relied so much on luck and the purples producing top form. I knew it wasn't sustainable and never would be, even if he was handed a £100m kitty because that kind of football, tactics and whatever just isn't going to work consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Can't believe people are on about wanting Keegan back, in whatever capacity, that ship sailed. Time to move on, and with Benitez in full control. He would be a great ambassador for the club, traveling abroad to meetings with potential sponsors etc. In that sense i agree, but nobody should be making footballing decisions but Rafa. Agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Did I hear TACTICAL MANAGERS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Knew HTT would go off on one as soon as Keegan was mentioned Sorry, but the man invokes in me something extra. I hear his name, hear him talk or see his face and I just brighten up and beam and could go on all day long just waxing lyrical about the man. He means so much to me personally, especially having now met him and spoke to him at length, and to our club. So so much. Again I just love the man. I also love Sir Bobby, Hughton and Rafa because its not so much what they did for the club, its because, well in reality, they could be me or you out there in the dugout. They want what I want, they fight for what I want and they value the club in the same way I do and that is a club that is extra f***ing special. Ashley has never ever showed that at any time and that actually saddens me because even if I was an outsider, or a foreigner, I'd look at NUFC and think bloody hell, wow, what a f***ing amazing and special thing it really is. Sir Bobby was born into that, KK as well through his dad, Rafa and Hughton weren't though, but they still got it and that's what makes those guys just as special to me anyway, despite achieving nowhere near what KK and Sir Bobby did. That's why Supermac for example despite some of the crap he talks is another personal hero of mine despite not seeing him play (met him too, loves us he really does). Waddle on the other hand, a local lad, played for us, played really well for us, may as well be another Pardew, the man's a f***ing idiot when it comes to NUFC and has no right or qualifications to talk about the club, regardless of whether he played for us or not. I'd rather listen to Warren Barton, Sir Les, Rob Lee, Ginola, Tino et al because they got us, they still do and they are one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Turkish billionaire Murat Ülker interested apparently. Only worth $4bn but owns Jaffa Cakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Turkey’s richest man, billionaire biscuits king Murat Ülker, has emerged as a front-runner to buy Newcastle United from owner Mike Ashley, the Evening Standard can reveal. Ülker is the chairman of Yildiz Holdings, the Turkish-based European food empire which boasts 56,000 staff and owns a host of household brands including McVitie’s, Penguins and Jaffa Cakes. Sources say he is ready to pay around £220 million. Sports Direct founder Ashley, who has owned Newcastle for a decade, formally put the club up for sale yesterday with hopes of a sale by Christmas. But Ülker and other possible buyers have been tracking the club for months. Ülker, who is worth some $3.7 billion (£2.8 billion) according to Forbes, will become the first Turkish owner of a top-flight football club if successful. He faces opposition from financier Amanda Staveley, who was recently pictured at Newcastle and whose PCP Capital Partners controls billions in Middle East wealth. Chinese investors are also reported to have shown interest. Tom McLoughlin, the Ülker family’s representative in London who has brokered a number of deals involving football clubs, said: “The Ülker family have substantial assets and significant investments already in the UK. “We understand football and our initial specific target would be to make Newcastle a solid top six club and a permanent feature in Europe with a popular local and worldwide following.” The Turk is ready to back coach Rafa Benitez with up to £60 million to invest in new players. Ülker’s team of advisers include accountants PwC and international law firm Charles Russell Speechlys. His representatives have been talking to Ashley’s advisers since early this year although hurdles included HMRC’s tax raids on Newcastle United and West Ham in April, involving nearly 200 officers in England and France. These prompted another round of haggling over the price. Ashley also briefly considered selling a significant minority stake in the club, which Ülker refused. The sale will end Ashley’s often-turbulent reign at the club he bought for £134 million in 2007, which has seen two relegations and nine managers over an often chaotic decade. Ülker is also said to be impressed by the infrastructure of Newcastle United, whose 52,000-capacity St James’ Park stadium is the seventh-largest in England. He will join an international roster of billionaires in the Premier League including Chelsea’s Russian owner Roman Abramovich. Newcastle United declined to comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Turkish billionaire Murat Ülker interested apparently. He has something to do with Fenerbahce IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Turkish billionaire Murat Ülker interested apparently. Any man that owns Jaffa Cakes is welcome in my club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Non story, will only pay £220 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Sounds great but isn't his worth similar to Ashley's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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