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When does Rooney find out how long his ban will be?

 

If it's three games, I'm not sure you can justify taking him.

 

Of course you can. He'll only be banned for the first two matches (if it's a 3 match ban) and ready for the deciding 3rd match of the group stages.

 

How does that work? :lol:

 

He'll be banned for the last qualification match which will be the first one of the banned.

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When does Rooney find out how long his ban will be?

 

If it's three games, I'm not sure you can justify taking him.

 

Of course you can. He'll only be banned for the first two matches (if it's a 3 match ban) and ready for the deciding 3rd match of the group stages.

 

How does that work? :lol:

 

He'll be banned for the last qualification match which will be the first one of the banned.

 

That was the last qualification match, we're done.

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When does Rooney find out how long his ban will be?

 

If it's three games, I'm not sure you can justify taking him.

 

Of course you can. He'll only be banned for the first two matches (if it's a 3 match ban) and ready for the deciding 3rd match of the group stages.

 

How does that work? :lol:

 

He'll be banned for the last qualification match which will be the first one of the banned.

 

That was the last qualification match, we're done.

 

Oh, my mistake then.

 

Well, have to agree now. If it's a 3 match ban it'll be a problem. Probably he shouldn't go then.

 

Saying that, I'm sure he'll be there, though. Players like Beckham, Owen and even Rooney himself were at World Cup's despite injuries. Rooney at least will be fit if it's longer than the group stages.

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Will discuss this when the relevant times comes around.  Say a month or two before the tournament begins.  Certainly not in October.

 

and fwiw people who are saying they cba about our squad or that it doesn't matter are rubbish.

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If we're doing without Roon the Loon, then I'd go for -

 

Hart

Richards Ferdinand Terry Cole

Wilshere Barry Gerrard

Young Welbeck Downing

 

Downing to go when Rooney is back.

 

Big ? over Ferdinand's fitness, but if fit, I'd start him. Jones is very tempting but I think he may be a season away from acquiring the composure that's needed in that position at international level.

 

 

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Goal keepers: Hart, Foster, Camp

 

Right backs: Richards

 

Centre backs: Terry, Cahill, Jagielka, Smalling

 

Left backs: Cole, Baines

 

Right Wing: Young, Lennon

 

Centre midfield: Lampard, Gerrard, Wilshire, Rodwell, Oxlade-Chamberlain

 

Left Wing: Johnson, Downing

 

Forwards: Rooney, Carroll, Sturridge, Bent

 

With Rooney suspended in the group I'd probably go 4-3-3 given we'll probably drawn in a decent group, perhps go:

 

---------------Hart---------------

 

Richards---Terry----Cahill---Baines

 

----Lampard----Rodwell----Wilshire

 

Young--------Carroll--------Johnson

 

With Rooney back I'd switch to a 4-2-3-1:

 

---------------Hart----------------

 

Richards---Terry----Cahill---Baines

 

--------Lampard-------Wilshire-------

 

Young--------Rooney--------Johnson

 

---------------Carroll---------------

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GK

Hart

Foster

Green

 

RB

Smalling

Richards

 

LB

Cole

Baines

 

CB

Ferdinand

Jones

King

 

RW

Oxlade-Camberlain

Lennon

 

LW

Young

Johnson

 

CM

Wilshere

Cleverley

Milner

Barry

 

CF

Rooney

Wellbeck

Sturridge

Bent

Carroll

 

Team:

 

Hart

Smalling Ferdinand Jones Cole

Cleverley Wilshere

Oxlade Rooney Young

Wellbeck

 

So basically cut out the cancers of the England team where possible, and build a young side around Man Utd players.

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Hart

Richards - Terry - Cahill - Cole

Lampard/Gerrard - Rodwell/Parker - Wilshere

Sturridge - Rooney - Young

 

Pick whoever's on better form out of Gerrard & Lampard, while Rooney's suspended play Welbeck/Bent, again, whoever's in the best form.

 

EDIT: Possibly even Cleverley ahead of Lampard/Gerrard

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Cleverly and Wellbeck aren't world beaters like.

 

They play for Mn Utd though. I can see the benefit of having 6 or 7 of the 11 play for Man Utd because they are already playing together and performing well and therefore they won't need to gel or work on team spirit as you already have it. That isn't something that teams other than Spain would have.

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No matter who plays, England won't win it. I don't really care about them but the ideal squad would have a bit of everything - like a toolbox. Oxlade-Chamberlain would be a good wild card, but none of the wingers deserve to not go.

 

GK: Hart, Foster, Carson

DEF: M Richards, P Jones, Terry, Cahill, Jagielka, Ferdinand, A Cole, Jagielka

MID: Wilshere, Gerrard, Lampard, A Johnson, Walcott, Young, Carrick, Downing

FOR: Rooney, Sturridge, Carroll, Bent

 

(Just missing out are Smalling, G Johnson, Lescott, Lennon, Parker, Welbeck)

 

Won't name a starting XI because that depends who they're against.

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Cleverly and Wellbeck aren't world beaters like.

 

They play for Mn Utd though. I can see the benefit of having 6 or 7 of the 11 play for Man Utd because they are already playing together and performing well and therefore they won't need to gel or work on team spirit as you already have it. That isn't something that teams other than Spain would have.

 

You mean the Spanish team that won the world cup with seven Barcelona players in the starting eleven?

 

Quality and coherence are equally if not more important than spirit. Team spirit pushes you to the latter stages of tournaments, quality wins you them.

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Cleverly and Wellbeck aren't world beaters like.

 

They play for Mn Utd though. I can see the benefit of having 6 or 7 of the 11 play for Man Utd because they are already playing together and performing well and therefore they won't need to gel or work on team spirit as you already have it. That isn't something that teams other than Spain would have.

 

Funnily enough they had this debate yesterday and the opinion seemed to be that because the group of Man Utd players (around ) in the squad during Scholes time in the England team just hung about each other probably didn't create the greatest team spirit throughout the rest of the squad.

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