madras Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Like the look of that Madras. what do you think of my line up though ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I think the next three games is where we are really going to see how AP uses the squad and if he does so correctly. I know Best and Ba have done well but for me its these kinda games where we need the likes of Barfa's magic. I personally would go with... ---Krul--- Simpson---Saylor---Coloccini---Raylor Guthrie---Cabaye---Tiote---Jonas ---Barfa--- ---Ba--- That could change into more like a 433 with Barfa and Jonas supporting Ba when on the attack and a 451 when in defence. Could even put Raylor at RM and Santon at LB but i think Guthrie deserves a place in the starting 11, plus if Santon got ripped a new hole in his 1st league start that might knock the lad for six. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I think the next three games is where we are really going to see how AP uses the squad and if he does so correctly. I know Best and Ba have done well but for me its these kinda games where we need the likes of Barfa's magic. I personally would go with... ---Krul--- Simpson---Saylor---Coloccini---Raylor Guthrie---Cabaye---Tiote---Jonas ---Barfa--- ---Ba--- That could change into more like a 433 with Barfa and Jonas supporting Ba when on the attack and a 451 when in defence. Could even put Raylor at RM and Santon at LB but i think Guthrie deserves a place in the starting 11, plus if Santon got ripped a new hole in his 1st league start that might knock the lad for six. i think pardew has been guided by results so far and it's worked for him, however i have the feeling that he is the sort of manager that would quite alter things, game to game depending on what he had available and the oppo, as opposed to sending out what he thought was his best XI reagardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Best has got to play in this game. If we can't retain possession in City's half at all, we'll be like pigs to the slaughter. We won't keep the ball half as much with Ba up top on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Pardew needs to decide whether we are going to compete in midfield or not. If not then we play 2 up front and try to bypass central midfield. The obvious risk being that we don't get the ball and Yaya and Silva run riot with Tiote picking up an early booking. If we are going to compete in midfield and try to gain some kind of control through possession then we play 1 up front and attempt to stifle City and condense the game. HBA imo would be pivotal and runs beyond the City defense would be our main threat. Ba would basically have run himself into the ground for little reward. Of the 2 I feel we have more chance with the second option which should also provide extra cover in wide areas. Either way we are going to have to play exceptionally well to get anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 `a 451 when in defence.` your in cloud cuckoo land if you think hba will track back. watch the 2 games so far where he was behind the striker, he never once did any defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 If HBA plays behind a striker, imo that will force Barry to play deeper and more defensive, if Guthrie plays, then for all Barry's faults he'll be able to play higher up where his passing will be more effective being nearer their players who will do us damage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Ba Jonas Cabaye Guthrie Santon Tiote Raylor Coloccini Saylor Simpson Krul I would set up like this. Jonas and Santon providing the fitness and defensive qualities to support our two full backs. Tiote sitting deep to break up their attack (Silva or Nasri). Guthrie and Cabaye both very capable of retaining posession. With the all round attacking qualities of Ba up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 `a 451 when in defence.` your in cloud cuckoo land if you think hba will track back. watch the 2 games so far where he was behind the striker, he never once did any defending. I've seen him track a player in possession and prevent them from playing an easy pass every time he's played,but I suppose it's not Alan smith throwing himself at the ball with no thought whatsoever so to some it might not look like defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Ba Jonas Cabaye Guthrie Santon Tiote Raylor Coloccini Saylor Simpson Krul I would set up like this. Jonas and Santon providing the fitness and defensive qualities to support our two full backs. Tiote sitting deep to break up their attack (Silva or Nasri). Guthrie and Cabaye both very capable of retaining posession. With the all round attacking qualities of Ba up front. Am not sure that trying to keep it that tight and stop them from scoring will work, they play so well.. QPR tactics are needed.. GO and get at them make them to be the ones with everyone behind the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Ba Jonas Cabaye Guthrie Santon Tiote Raylor Coloccini Saylor Simpson Krul I would set up like this. Jonas and Santon providing the fitness and defensive qualities to support our two full backs. Tiote sitting deep to break up their attack (Silva or Nasri). Guthrie and Cabaye both very capable of retaining posession. With the all round attacking qualities of Ba up front. Am not sure that trying to keep it that tight and stop them from scoring will work, they play so well.. QPR tactics are needed.. GO and get at them make them to be the ones with everyone behind the ball. City will eventually break us down and dominate the game if we just try to be tight at the back. We need to attack on the counter, use our pace to push their defense back. To bad Obertan is not fit.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Pardew was on TS this morning, said we are going there to play not sit back, said teams that went and defended all got hammered so sounds like he will be going two up front. Also said Tiote & Obertan may yet feature although Tiote is more likely. For the conspiracy theorists he was asked about Maiga and said 'i dont know if we will be back in for him as we are doing better than expected so our targets have changed' Of course some will see that as either New target/No target depending on which side of the fence they sit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Think we will go 4-5-1 here. 2-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Mind games by Pards.. Obertan cony had an infected toe, surely antibiotics have cleared that up by now, he should be training already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Any news on any injuries to any of their players? Silva broke his leg? Aguero pulled up with a hamstring? Dzeko pulled his groin? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Any news on any injuries to any of their players? Silva broke his leg? Aguero pulled up with a hamstring? Dzeko pulled his groin? Aguero did pull out of the Argie squad injured didn't he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Any news on any injuries to any of their players? Silva broke his leg? Aguero pulled up with a hamstring? Dzeko pulled his groin? Aguero did pull out of the Argie squad injured didn't he ? Nah, played and scored the winner last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Decent article from one who is often wide of the mark where we're concerned. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2061901/Martin-Samuel-Alan-Pardews-coronation-wait.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Decent article from one who is often wide of the mark where we're concerned. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2061901/Martin-Samuel-Alan-Pardews-coronation-wait.html Absolutely spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Yeah that's almost spot on, though I personally doubt we'll make 4th, (regardless of where we end up, this team is a great achievement, and he's absolutely right, why not aim high?), but I've got sick of if we can beat the 3 best teams is the 'real test'. Still if QPR can nearly beat City we should have some hope. I would not be upset if they hammered us though, their players cost a load more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 BEST BA GUTIERREZ - TIOTÉ - CABAYE - SANTON R.TAYLOR - COLOCCINI - S.TAYLOR - SIMPSON KRUL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 BEST BA GUTIERREZ - TIOTÉ - CABAYE - SANTON R.TAYLOR - COLOCCINI - S.TAYLOR - SIMPSON KRUL That's how I would go with the personnel available... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Same here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I know Santon can play there, but how recently has he? Is he going to be Jonas like and be very defensive. It would narrow the game a lot, but unlike Stoke they do carry a lot of threat through middle. If Tiote and Cabaye can keep Silva penned back have a chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Not a chance Santon will start on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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