Yorkie Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Creativity isn't simply about assists and you know that. I'm defending him more than is comfortable now, so i'm just going to agree to disagree. But aye, he was class in that game against Reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 He was creative in getting injured. I'll give him that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 This is a tough one. My all time XI is: Given Barton Coloccini Woodgate Enrique Solano Lee Robert Beardsley Shearer Ferdinand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Good to see a few people rightly putting Laurent in there. Best winger we've ever had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Probably different to the last time I posted one of these but Given Barton Colo Woodgate José Solano Batty Beardsley Robert Shearer Ferdinand Was Batty better than Cheick, or even Speed? Genuine question like, can't really remember Batty, aside from seeing him in Pickering a dozen times. as a tackling no nonsense DM. probs just edges it. but Bracewell for me at his best. More to his game than just tackling though, although that was obviously a strong point. He was very much a pivot in the middle from which we operated. Not to the same extent but not to disimilar to what Makelele and Busquets have gone on to truly master. To compare and contrast Yorkie he'd be more Tiote than Speed (the latter very much an attacking player who changed his role) and in comparison the former still doesn't use the ball well enough for me yet to edge him out. One, who we had who'd have been better if he wasn't a twitchy big nosed cunt would probably have been Hamman. Plus in my team I've shoehorned Beardsley (probably unfairly) in to a CM/10 role so you'd need someone to stop at home and not go missing which Batty wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 surprised by the lack of Batty in people's teams until Disco posted in all fairness. Suppose its kind of tough though if you want to accommodate Speed and Lee too. We need an older person (I'm thinking Mick) to drop in some names from the 60's/70's. I know me dad would be championing the likes of Ollie Burton, Irving Nattrass, John Tudor and Wyn Davies etc. He reckons a deeply religious teacher at Walbottle campus threatened him with the belt for having 'Wyn Davies is God' written on his satchel when he was younger... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 There is one theme that runs through this thread- All attacking midfields with 1 Dm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 surprised by the lack of Batty in people's teams until Disco posted in all fairness. Suppose its kind of tough though if you want to accommodate Speed and Lee too. We need an older person (I'm thinking Mick) to drop in some names from the 60's/70's. I know me dad would be championing the likes of Ollie Burton, Irving Nattrass, John Tudor and Wyn Davies etc. He reckons a deeply religious teacher at Walbottle campus threatened him with the belt for having 'Wyn Davies is God' written on his satchel when he was younger... Wyn Davies wasn't that great, tbh. Excellent header of the ball but otherwise a bit limited. Malcolm MacDonald was a big step up. From those days, Bobby Moncur and Tony Green deserve consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 My uncle said Malcolm MacDonald was incredibly quick but actually not that great technically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 My uncle said Malcom MacDonald was incredibly quick but actually not that great technically. Fair comment. He wasn't that intelligent, either, but he was quick and strong and obviously had an eye for goal. And was better than The Mighty Wyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 When my granda was alive, he always said that Len White was the deadliest forward he'd seen for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Batty at his best was a quality defensive midfielder but he was astonishingly negative with the ball. I'd probably still have him just above Tiote and comfortably ahead of Bracewell. However, it's not to say you have to have to a recognised defensive midfielder. If I was playing Beardsley in the forward midfield role, I'd have Rob Lee as the all round midfielder. Was top class when in his pomp. Gary Speed was pretty good too in that all round central midfield role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 My uncle said Malcom MacDonald was incredibly quick but actually not that great technically. Fair comment. He wasn't that intelligent, either, but he was quick and strong and obviously had an eye for goal. And was better than The Mighty Wyn. Aye, he didn't rate Wyn much at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I often found it astonishing how underrated Rob Lee was by the rest of the country. When he was at his best, he was absolutely awesome. Brilliant brilliant player - even if his form tended to drop off a little by Feb/March time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I often found it astonishing how underrated Rob Lee was by the rest of the country. When he was at his best, he was absolutely awesome. Brilliant brilliant player - even if his form tended to drop off a little by Feb/March time... It definetely didn't do that in 93-94. He was absolutely on fire in the last few months of that season. Incredible player at his best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I often found it astonishing how underrated Rob Lee was by the rest of the country. When he was at his best, he was absolutely awesome. Brilliant brilliant player - even if his form tended to drop off a little by Feb/March time... early in his career here he was outstanding attacking midfielder, as he got older and his arse got too big. he changed his game, and was still excellent playing more defensive. class act. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I said that would be his last goal when he scored against Man U in the 4-3 in 2001. He was shell of a shell of himself at that point, sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I actually thought he really excelled in the DM role for us - used the ball so well. Still dream about that crossfield ball to Shearer for the side footed volley past Schmeichel.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Given Barton Woodgate Coloccini Enrique Pedro Speed Lee Ginola Shearer Ferdinand ...probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I often found it astonishing how underrated Rob Lee was by the rest of the country. When he was at his best, he was absolutely awesome. Brilliant brilliant player - even if his form tended to drop off a little by Feb/March time... One of my favourite players when I was younger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 RB is by far the most difficult position to fill here. None of them are really any good. Was thinking the exact same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Given Nattrass Woodgate Coloccini Jose Enrique Solano Bracewell Gascoigne Robert Beardsley Shearer Subs Krul, Alan Kennedy, Moncur, Tommy Craig, Waddle, Ferdinand, Macdonald Old git, me, like, but I just missed Tony Green who everybody raved about, although I don't think he could have been better than Gazza. Went to his testimonial - Bobby Charlton played for us! Irving Nattrass was a proper class right back, the best in England at the time, but too far north for the national team to even consider, three days by horse to London in them days. Macdonald might not have been technically excellent but he was as fast as f**k and built like a bull - pure excitement every time he went on the rampage. Tommy Craig had a sweet left peg so he just keeps Jimmy Smith in the stands. I can't allow Ginola or Cole near my lads because they slagged us off when they left. My players are better anyway. Mind with the massive squad at my disposal I'd be rotating like fury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I could even do this again with: GK: Given RB: Beye CB: Woody CB: Colo LB: Enrique DCM: Tiote CM: Lee CM: Solano CAM: Beardo ST: Cole ST: Shearer And even that you could have Speed play the role next to Lee. This would assume leaving out Ginola and Robert. Midfield could be something like: Solano - Lee - Speed - Robert or Ginola - Lee - Speed - Robert Midfield has a billion options tbh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 GK - Karelse RB - Ramage LB - Serrant CB - Marcelino CB - Boumsong RM - Brady LM - Pattison CM - Fumaca CM - Maric CF - Andersson CF - Cordone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 When my granda was alive, he always said that Len White was the deadliest forward he'd seen for us. My dad says Len White was fantastic and is right up there with the best. Surprised nobody has mentioned Hughie Gallagher. Not many will have seen him but he must have been quite something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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