Guest neesy111 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: VAR once again failing to make a decision, was a stone wall pen that. Except it was never a pen. One replay make's it look a pen and then a clearer replay one and it's nowhere near. Edited April 17, 2022 by neesy111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 minute ago, neesy111 said: Except it was never a pen. One replay make's it look a pen and then a clearer replay one and it's nowhere near. Was basing my opinion on being in the ground and haven’t seen it back, so will accept that pending MOTD later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Was basing my opinion on being in the ground and haven’t seen it back, so will accept that pending MOTD later The one from the main camera makes it look like one but one from the side clearly shows he gets the ball first and knocks onto Wood and it's a collision. Edited April 17, 2022 by neesy111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Great use of VAR for the first goal TBF to it, would most likely have been given as a free kick to the keeper before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Great use of VAR for the first goal TBF to it, would most likely have been given as a free kick to the keeper before. It was as the ref blew for it despite no foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Would be interested to know whether the ref or the linesman made the decision to disallow the goal as the ref wasn't in a position to see it from where I was sitting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Non-British ref being good shocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Ref did well for the winner as well, could easily have blown for the rugby tackle on Big Joe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Ref did well for the winner as well, could easily have blown for the rugby tackle on Big Joe. If a referee blew to bring that foul up without playing the advantage when the player with the ball was in the position Willock was with the ice he was showing and with no time left on the clock, then he/she shouldn’t be refereeing games. Allowing the advantage should be standard practice. It’s when they play on and don’t bring the advantage back when none is gained or ruin the advantage which kills games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: Was basing my opinion on being in the ground and haven’t seen it back, so will accept that pending MOTD later You only saw it in the ground once from miles away but happy to be here having a go at VAR? Today was another proof that VAR is absolutely needed, Bruno's first goal would never have stood without some video help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: VAR once again failing to make a decision, was a stone wall pen that. He gets the ball! Not a penatly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pata said: You only saw it in the ground once from miles away but happy to be here having a go at VAR? Today was another proof that VAR is absolutely needed, Bruno's first goal would never have stood without some video help. All today proved was that sometimes it is applied competently. It didn't undo all of the utter wank decisions which routinely leave us cursing its existence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, CPL said: He gets the ball! Not a penatly. Aye, @neesy111was right. 10 minutes ago, Pata said: You only saw it in the ground once from miles away but happy to be here having a go at VAR? Today was another proof that VAR is absolutely needed, Bruno's first goal would never have stood without some video help. It’s still not worth having it, for the one right decision it’s got us - there are three other wrong ones, plus all of the other obvious flaws in it which have been gone through countless times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Yorkie said: All today proved was that sometimes it is applied competently. It didn't undo all of the utter wank decisions which routinely leave us cursing its existence. I've had this conversation hundred times but it's not VAR's fault, it's the officials that also make wank decisions on the pitch. If they can't get them right after replays, how could they ever get them right without any help? Edited April 17, 2022 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Was thinking earlier how raging we'd all be at that first goal being disallowed were it not for VAR. Classic "blow for a foul if anyone breathes near the keeper" shit soft refereeing, not even close to being illegal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 I am curious to if they simply guessed the keeper must have caught it at first, as it was nowhere near his hands at any point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 I'm probably the biggest VAR fan here but even I think that the process is fundamentally flawed right now and who ever came up with the PL system should be sacked on the spot. For example referee isn't sure whether he should give a penalty or not but has to make some decision in anycase. Then VAR uses two to three minutes to come up with a decision before the referee makes the symbolical jog to the screen and stays with whatever VAR had decided. Why can't the referee just raise his hand and admit that he's not sure and has to see it again. Ref runs to the screen, watches few replays and makes a decision. Would be so simple and faster than the current process and also gets rid of the weird respect VAR has for on-field referee's decision and the similarly weird respect on-field referee has for whatever VAR comes up with. VAR could still intervene with anything that the ref had clearly missed despite thinking he got it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 minute ago, xLiaaamx said: I am curious to if they simply guessed the keeper must have caught it at first, as it was nowhere near his hands at any point. Absolutely and it's understandable when the referee has to make some decision even if he didn't see it properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Part of me thinks the ref should generally let play go on and then consult the video replay whenever in doubt versus the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Fucking hell that Saka pen, absolutely hopeless officiating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Seeing this angle in slow motion got me wondering whether Mitchell would get away with fouling Almiron here. Just after the header, and the position on the field suggests there is good chance it would not be given as DOGSO. We'd get a free kick, Mitchell would get a booking, and us fans would be denied a strong contender for our goal of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Some really odd calls in the Arsenal v Man U game today in terms of penalty calls and most blatantly Fernandez not getting sent off for a vicious stamp. VAR is still so random they might as well not bother with it really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61213710 Whinging twats. As for the actual answer maybe because the player spent all day diving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gbandit Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Thank fuck Atkinson is going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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