Hanshithispantz Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 They've had the off season to sort this shite out and they haven't even been able to go one weekend without (atleast 2) objectively wrong decisions leading to Wolves & Brentford dropping points. They've stopped Jason Tindall from standing in the technical area, and forced 10 minutes of first half added time, so maybe they feel they've done enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Utterly incompetent like. You can have all the technology in the world, but if the person looking at it is a moron, you're going to have issues. It's either that, or there is once again, a lack of clear guidance on what a clear and obvious error is. Obviously some cunt, somewhere doesn't understand because that was a blatant a pen as I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) The most simple improvement to me seems to be get rid of clear and obvious error. Current VAR official decision - "is it understandable that the referee didn't give this penalty?" New VAR official decision - "was that a penalty or not?" I get the need to protect the standing of the officials but surely the best way to do that is to get the decisions right. Edited August 15, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 So many organisations are like that. Problems are highlighted time and time again and the people who make the decisions spend all of their time on a new, smaller or invented problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 They’ll be back for the next Man Utd game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) Feel maybe slightly harsh on Simon Hooper - yes he should have spotted it but he only saw it live and may have been unsighted. That moron Michael Salisbury has done him dirty there Edited August 15, 2023 by Pokerprince2004 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Anyone in that VAR room from last night needs throwing out the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) A nice week off work for them and no doubt an apology from that baldy muppet Webb to Wolves. Fucking scandalous. Edited August 15, 2023 by Danh1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I’ve seen worse decisions not given (eg nastier challenges in the box) but I don’t think I’ve seen a foul that was as blatant as that, that everyone can agree on, that VAR didn’t ask for the Ref to review. It’s corruption and that’s all it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 useless, corrupt cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I think the apologies actually make it worse, they should just stick by the decisions unless they're going to fix the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think the apologies actually make it worse, they should just stick by the decisions unless they're going to fix the system. We've never even had an apology. Even the one on De Gea which was worse than Onana's. I don't think anything was said. Edited August 15, 2023 by Froggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Just remembered rat boy's offside goal against Liverpool. Worst decision ever that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Froggy said: We've never even had an apology. Even the one on De Gea which was worse than Onana's. I don't think anything was said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: The most simple improvement to me seems to be get rid of clear and obvious error. Current VAR official decision - "is it understandable that the referee didn't give this penalty?" New VAR official decision - "was that a penalty or not?" I get the need to protect the standing of the officials but surely the best way to do that is to get the decisions right. Yep. I’ve said this a million times but the problem in this country has always been that they begin with the premise that the ref on the pitch can’t make a mistake. As you say it should be as simple as ‘was that a pen?’ With the benefit of video technology they would get more right than wrong but they tie themselves in knots trying to uphold the infallibility of the on pitch ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Imagine being given the gift of video replay to improve the fairness of the game and then looking to over complicate it at every turn. Just disregard the on field decision, look at a couple of angles and make a call that either reenforces or supercedes the on field decision. If both refs go the same way, fine, but the VAR refs are too compromised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 VAR Official looks at decision and asks the question "has he potentially got that wrong"? If yes clips go to 3 officials who aren't watching the game so don't know the on field decision and are just asked "is that a penalty?", "Is that a red or a yellow?". Majority decision stands. Easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I'm going to hazard a guess and say this is bullshit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Those are Man Utd lanyards. I know that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicfc Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Cheating manc scum with the officials in their pocket. Nowt changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) "Sorry they got it wrong, so they won't ref next week (but still get paid) and then they'll be back later where no doubt they'll make mistakes again since they have track record of bottling decisive decisions. Thanks for understanding Gary, and congratulations on your 0 points by the way! It's not like you came into this game expecting to get any result anyway, is it hahahahahaha just joshing... " Edited August 15, 2023 by OCK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Any technology that can be used to help officials make the correct decisions, is currently being used to help the officials protect the big 6. Must be a lot of money flowing somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, 54 said: I'm going to hazard a guess and say this is bullshit? Where do the officials go at St. James's Park? Do you not have hospitality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, Froggy said: Where do the officials go at St. James's Park? Do you not have hospitality? I've been waiting all fucking day, and that's all you can come up with. I'm disappointed Froggster, your standards as slipping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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